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Shiraz
06-02-2014, 05:33 PM
hi
was working up a new scope last night when the seeing settled below 2arc sec - best in a long time!. The new scope was nowhere near ready, so I threw the old trusty 200mm back together and aligned the bits more or less by eye in the hope I could get something before the seeing went back to normal. It was partially successful, but the scope ended up a fair way out of whack with a bit of astigmatism and some bad diffraction patterns - I had to tidy up the very messy bright stars in Startools (thanks Ivo) to get something postable.
Anyway, here is the best I could do with the luminance data - unlikely to get colour. Pity I did not have a proper system going for this lot - the seeing was great and the mount was tracking at about 0.3 arcsec RMS! Ah well... thanks for looking. Regards Ray
EDIT: added colour - the best I could get with diffraction issue.
SimmoW
06-02-2014, 05:46 PM
a great example of the KISS principle. Quite beautiful.
alpal
06-02-2014, 05:58 PM
Hi Ray,
that's an amazing picture considering it's a magnitude 10 target.
What telescope exactly did you use & is it from a dark site?
cheers
Allan
gregbradley
06-02-2014, 06:36 PM
Sweet shot of one of my favourite galaxies. Lots of detail.
Love it.
Greg.
David Fitz-Henr
06-02-2014, 08:54 PM
Yes, nice shot Ray, especially considering the rush job on the scope :thumbsup:
allan gould
06-02-2014, 11:04 PM
That is a really great image, Ray. One that I would be really proud of if it were mine.
Glad you had the ability to put all your equipment together and produce something for us to see.
Allan
strongmanmike
06-02-2014, 11:11 PM
Watch you talkin'bout Willis :shrug: that's excellent, the scope looks like it was working bloody perfectly ;) great result...now getting the colour right on this one is a different story though ;)
Mike
Shiraz
07-02-2014, 12:36 AM
thanks you Simon. yep, KISS it is
Hi Allan. thank you. The site was fairly dark when the moon went down - it's a country town. The scope is a 200mm f4 GSO.
Thanks Greg. it sure is a really beautiful galaxy
Thanks very much David.
Thanks Allan . despite the mad scramble to get the system working, I was very pleased to get this image.
Colour hmmm - I doubt that stars will register properly - the bright ones here have been somewhat reconstituted. Have some really bad colour data from a 5 arc sec night so maybe will give it a go.
The imaging system really was far from perfect and I had to nurse it along with refocusing every few frames to keep the astigmatism buried in the seeing disk. But it worked just well enough :).
regards Ray
Stevec35
07-02-2014, 01:12 AM
A very good NGC 2997 there Ray. It's a deceptively tough galaxy.
Cheers
Steve
The grayscale is quite lovely. :thumbsup:
strongmanmike
07-02-2014, 09:23 AM
Ah, how was that done?
Yes RGB data can be crapolla and you can still get a good LRGB combine, as was the case with my recent NGC 2207 in Canis Major, after all, a common technique is to Gaussian blur the RGB before the LRGB combine anyway :thumbsup:
multiweb
07-02-2014, 10:57 AM
That looks really good Ray. :thumbsup:
strongmanmike
07-02-2014, 11:53 AM
Agreed, colour is an unnecessary and obsessive nuance anyway, hey John? ;)
DavidNg
07-02-2014, 12:14 PM
Hi Ray,
Love your image, lots of detail from core to galaxy arms.
I would like to see what will the color look like.
Regards
tilbrook@rbe.ne
07-02-2014, 04:28 PM
Love it Ray!:thumbsup:
How far off is your 10" ?
Can't wait to see what resolution you get from it.
Cheers,
Justin.
Shiraz
07-02-2014, 09:45 PM
thanks very much Steve. it is a very pretty galaxy though - your image was great.
Thanks very much John.
yes will give it a go :)
StarTools has a couple of ways to tidy up stars. Doesn't make up any new data, but just re-arranges it so that stars are closer to circular. I don't use it often, because it can look a bit artificial, but it can sometimes rescue otherwise valuable images.
Hi Marc - thanks
Thanks David, will do.
Thanks Justin. took the first coma-uncorrected image from the 10 inch last night - the Skywatcher optics are not quite as well corrected as the GSO, but should still be way more than good enough. I expect that the resolution will be the same as the 8 inch most of the time - determined entirely by the atmosphere. However, on those rare excellent nights, the 10 inch may do a little better - we shall see. The main advantage of the bigger scope is the CF tube, which should ease focusing problems a little and is definitely very rigid and stable - should do a better job of keep things in collimation.
regards Ray
PRejto
07-02-2014, 10:30 PM
That's a very impressive image for a "first light," problems or not! Bravo.
Peter
Maurice
09-02-2014, 02:22 PM
Great result Ray..
What coma corrector do you use with this system?
Regards
Maurice
strongmanmike
10-02-2014, 02:47 AM
Ah yes I see it now...still, not too bad really :confuse3:
Mike
Shiraz
10-02-2014, 06:10 AM
thanks very much Peter.
Hi Maurice. I use an RCC1 - works pretty well at f4
well I tried the colour data - the modified stars are displaced enough to upset the registration process and it looks pretty crook. mono it will remain.
regards Ray
RickS
12-02-2014, 08:29 PM
Great lum, Ray, and a lovely galaxy. Perhaps you can get some RGB another time.
Shiraz
13-02-2014, 10:42 AM
Thanks Rick. have just added the best colour I could get with existing RGB data. Really need to do the whole again and properly this time ... Regards Ray
PRejto
13-02-2014, 07:59 PM
I very much like that colour rendition! The muted, natural look + great resolution is great.
Peter
gregbradley
13-02-2014, 08:44 PM
Lovely! A little green is in the background and the colour balance will improve with HLVG free plugin for Photoshop or simply reduce the green shadows area curves.
Its quite a deep image showing the extent of the spiral arms. This is one of my favourite southern galaxies.
Greg.
Shiraz
13-02-2014, 09:19 PM
Thanks Peter - appreciate the comment.
Right again Greg - you clearly have better eyes than I. replaced image - thanks for your help. There is still some chroma noise in the background, but Pixinsight assures me that it is now balanced.
regards Ray
gregbradley
13-02-2014, 09:34 PM
That looks good Ray. The galaxy is really a lot bigger than shown in most images. Your image shows that very clearly. I have noticed this time and again. Almost all galaxies are way bigger than shown in most images. A goal is to go deep enough to show that.
Greg.
gregbradley
15-02-2014, 07:52 PM
I had a look at this one a bit closer. I have some subs I took at my dark site. I see there are 5 or 6 bright areas in the core like large globs or something. I can just kind of see them in yours. I bet they are there. Perhaps bit of judicious use of Shadows/highlights tool would bring them out.
Greg.
atalas
16-02-2014, 01:30 PM
Great looking galaxy detail!you should be pleased for now.
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