I am only the Pohotograher and this is not a fake

[rodroger]

Well, I will let everybody make their own mind up on these images I captured on the 13/09/2013
Seven stacked 0.009 sec exposures
I deconvulated,
I used curves and levels
and I used High pass sharpening
That's all.............
http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Moona0002.jpg



http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Moona0002_crop.jpg


http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Moona0002BB.jpg


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I can supply the Original unstacked fits to anyone interested......

[Astroman]

Nice work. Slightly over sharpened in my books but you have done a good job. What equipment did you use to take the image? ie. camera, telescope/lens etc...

[iceman]

What are you pointing out? Why would anyone claim a fake?

[acropolite]

Mike if you look at the crop you'll see a couple of light spots with what appears to be light tails emanating from them.

[rodroger]

I was using a 254mm f3.9 Astrograph with a Meade DSI II Colour.
Took this shot while checking my optics etc. before taking a few deep sky photos later.

[troypiggo]

If you're after any scientific analysis or comment, you'd have to show images with no deconv and sharpening etc. They can introduce artefacts. eg your crop has some ringing round highlights.

[rustigsmed]

Hi there,
Its just pushing the data too far.
Here is a crop of a pic of the moon i took some time ago. you can see the area reasonably clearly.

cheers

[rodroger]

Here is the original unworked image. To me, it makes no difference as it is still there....................

http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Moona0002untouched.jpg

AS I said, I am just the photographer, but what I see seems to be in the foreground. I just posted this here to see what other people can actually see .........and keeping an open mind and not rush to any conclusion.

[Shark Bait]

This is one of my images from the International Observe the Moon Night 2012. The bright areas in your photo appear to match the natural lunar landscape features in my image.

[deanm]

Alien moonbases, no doubt about it.

US Govt. conspiracy.

Probably part of the hoax Apollo 'landings'.

ChemTrails etc. etc.

Dean

[rodroger]

Thanks for the images and the input on this, just found it very strange. And I did look at a lot of other Moon shots prior to posting this. I did go way beyond what you would normally sharpen an image but this was done on purpose to tease out the detail with high contrast after my eyes saw what my mind rejected as ridiculous.....

[Shark Bait]

To my eyes the processing of your image has made Crater Madler look like a raised platform. It is an interesting effect. My Moon chart tab data indicates that Madler is 27km in diameter.

[rodroger]

Yes, it is a very unusual effect, But know I can see it in every image ever taken of this area of the moon now, it jumps out at me after seeing this.?
Some images you find it very hard to make out but I'm still scratching my head on this shot.

Do not worry, I am very sceptical of what I see, and believe it could be just artefacts from the light and my over processing to get a better look at it. As to what it looks like....I am not a advocate of UFO's and believe the distances are far too great and the power and resources required for interstellar travel not even remotely possible, even for an extremely advanced culture.
I have even publicly discredited numerous videos and photo's myself on Youtube as ridiculous theories. But this one made me take a step back for a minute.
There really is no way of being sure of the why.......
I have processed this as I would any faint area's of a Galaxy to bring out the finer detail but never on this scale and neve to this extent.
But it is interesting what processing can do to an image and one must be aware and careful of this problem.

[LewisM]

I thought you had captured a TLP (Transient Lunar Phenomenon) for a second, but now I realise what you were digging at.

Just light at a different angle making the shadows of the raised lunar craters look "ledgy", and fill the craters with light making them look like white discs.

No black helicopters required ;)

[rodroger]

Thanks Lewis, this does explain the shot a bit. Looks like your eyes can play tricks with your imaging and processing of what is actually there :)

[rodroger]

Thought it best to show some of my images I have taken to show my processing style. I am still a newbie on processing but have acquired video tutorial and used trial and error.
Note-: I have used Starspike Pro in these images giving some false colour in some of the stars but they are pleasing to the eye if not entirely accurate.

http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Astrofest-2013/NGC628_01-09-2013_10min_BWx11_RGBx8.jpg
M74, Stu Parker has pinpointed out to me in this image the Supernova present, Thanks Stu. - taken out in my backyard in Redcliffe City!



http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Galaxies/254mm-Orion-Astrograph/Pavo-Group_Meade-DSI_254mm-Orion-f3.9-Astrograph_09-2013_Lx12_RGBx10.jpg
The Pavo Group of Galaxies - taken out in my backyard in Redcliffe City!

http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Galaxies/254mm-Orion-Astrograph/NGC7606_04-08-2013_Astrofest2013_Meade-DSI_254-Orion-Astrograph-f3.9_BWx10min_RGBx7-10min.jpg
NGC7606 in Aquarius, Taken at Qld Astrofest 2013 in August

http://www.rodroger.com/images/Astronomy/Nebulas/254mm-Orion-Astrograph/NGC6853-M17_09-08-2013_A-strofest2013_Meade-DSI-2-254mm-OrionReflector-F5_2min_BWx20_Rx30_Gx30_Bx29.jpg
M27 :) Taken at Qld Astrofest 2013 in August


In final conclusion on the image I have taken and processed of the moon.
It shows how the angle of light, the exposure and the over processing of an image can make things appear that are actually not present but are when all added together give an illusion only. A good lesson for any Astrophotographer as how you must always try and not over process your images as it will cause problems. This example obviously is an extreme case of this effect and I Will have to be careful with my Galactic shots as they will not be as noticeable as in a planetary shots and I will have to carefully scrutinise my before and after processing, which I generally do anyway with Galaxies.
I always create a duplicate layer in Photoshop and even use this to vary the degree of each processing step.
:)