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Paul Haese
06-07-2013, 11:06 AM
What is it with Microsheite. The old version of windows movie maker worked, was easier to use and never locked up on a machine that was by comparison retarded. Yet the current version of WMM locks up constantly, is harder to use and has less functions. The knuckle heads at Microstain are incapable of writing anything that works from the start. Everything they write requires constant updating (like daily) and one never gets the final version that actually works.

What caused this rant; well I wanted to open a current project and make some tweaks but apparently WMM wants to use 60% of the 8 gig of RAM I have in my machine and continually locks up. What a complete and utter piece of junk.

What is a an affordable timelapse software that works and is easy to use. Don't tell me Sony Vegas because that is more complicated than it needs to be and is probably written by the same retards who wrote the piece of crap I am using now.

So tired of software not working as it should. The machines now are so fast and yet the retarded software that it is written makes them slow.

End of Rant.:mad2::mad2::mad2:

acropolite
06-07-2013, 11:32 AM
Microsoft IMO have become disfunctional, they are so intent on emulating apple and delivering the market tablet computing on a grand scale, they've forgotten that the vast majority of users don't want apple style interfaces and confusion and that if it's not busted don't fix it.

With every new OS there's the catch cry "it's faster, and more stable", any speed increases gradually run down the update drain, usually when the dust settles the OS is no quicker than the one it replaced.

Vista was no more stable than WinXP, it just crashed more elegantly as did Win7. IMO XP was the most productive and easy to use OS that MS have produced, every OS since then has been a retrograde step.

We can only hope that one day Linux becomes the mainstream OS that Windows should have been.

FWIW Sony Vegas is a good piece of software, there arre a few versions available, I'm not sure how it would fare with timelapse stuff but for professional video editing it is highly regarded.

Starless
06-07-2013, 12:00 PM
Mate, if Microsoft made a vacume cleaner they would
finally have a product that didn't suck.
What can you expect from a company name that
describes the founder's genitalia.:lol:

AndrewJ
06-07-2013, 12:30 PM
Stop sooking, at least you have data that you cant play with.
I cant even get the data :lol:
Got a new W7 pro 64bit ( with real Com1 that works :D )
2 webcams with no driver support and my composite video to USB converter wont work either. Lots of people with lots of recommendations on how to fix it but none work so far.
Ah well, a few more hours and it might be time to give up.
At least IS have done drivers for the DMK or id be dead.

Andrew

rat156
06-07-2013, 03:02 PM
Hi Andrew,

Buy a Mac!!

Install a version of Windows that works (i.e.XP) either under Bootcamp or under emulation. Hey presto, it all works again.

Can't you run XP under VMWare in Windows?

Cheers
Stuart

rat156
06-07-2013, 03:05 PM
Houghy,

I use Timelapse Assembler, which I have for my Mac, I don't know if there's a version for Windows. Alternatively you can use Adobe Lightroom for timelapse, there are several tutorial on using it on YouTube.

Cheers
Stuart

Paul Haese
06-07-2013, 03:08 PM
Houghy????

mithrandir
06-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Apart from other suggestions there are VideoPad Video Editor Professional (NCH Software) and VideoStudio Pro X6 (Corel).

Not free but not the price of Sony Vegas either.

AstralTraveller
06-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Unfortunately Ubuntu is going backwards. I've just spent a frustrating 30 minutes trying, unsuccessfully, to empty the trash. I've run screaming from the new desktop and am using the old gnome (2.6??) but even that doesn't have the functionality it used to have. The upgrade to 12.04 broke my favourite music player, Amarok, which now steadfastly refuses to make a peep. Testing the sound card from within Amarok works and it makes the goodbye sound but the music is still absent. I'm now using VLC but find it even more clunky. And the inbuilt backup utility inspired such confidence that I now backup with rsync.

PRejto
06-07-2013, 04:12 PM
I will just put in another positive word for Vegas. It works quite well and isn't that complicated. I use an older version and it does what is advertised.

Peter

Astro_Bot
06-07-2013, 04:59 PM
I'd agree that Ubuntu isn't a pleasing distro, but it's generally the new-fangled desktops that are the issue, including in other distros such as Fedora.

I'm very happy with Scientific Linux 6.4 with "classic" Gnome, but also use Linux Mint 13 LTS with XFCE. I switched away from Micro$oft (except in virtual machines to run a couple of legacy aps, and to run ASCOM/EQMOD on a laptop) in 2004 and haven't looked back.

As for video editing in Linux, I haven't done any, but try these reviews for advice:
Top 5 Linux Video Editor Software (http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/)
Top 3 Linux Video Editors (http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/693365-top-3-linux-video-editors)

rat156
06-07-2013, 07:06 PM
Sorry Paul.

Brain fade.

Cheers
Stuart

pluto
06-07-2013, 07:40 PM
I agree, Ubuntu and Fedora are fine, I'd be happy to use either (I'm on Fedora 18 now) but I always use KDE as, in my opinion, it's by far the best window manager on any desktop OS. It's strange how even on Linux now days people don't see the OS and it's GUI as separate things.

AndrewJ
06-07-2013, 08:06 PM
Gday Stu



Yr a funny man:lol:



Yep, but being the luddite that i am, i also want native kernel level access to my LPTand COM ports, and it appears you cant do that in the XP version that can be setup "inside" W7.
Its blocked "for my protection".:shrug:
I will just add a second harddisk with XP on it, and boot into it when i want to do real work, and use W7 when i want to have a gooey "experience" in what the new ( well old now ) W7 64bit windoze can do for me.
Gotta admit, disassembling Meades files absolutely blisters with an I7CPU and heaps of RAM, but loss of access to my ports pi$$es me off.

Gotta luv backward compatibility.

Andrew

mithrandir
06-07-2013, 09:46 PM
You mean like Canon dropping support for some of their USB scanners in Win7?

AndrewJ
07-07-2013, 06:48 AM
Gday Andrew



That too, but i managed to find a site where someone had tweaked the 64bit drivers so they work with some of the older scanners
like my Lide50. That at least now works.

Andrew

Barrykgerdes
07-07-2013, 10:22 AM
My VMware expert says you can run LPT & COM natively in XP. What I do know is that this computer does not have OpenGl video drivers for XP natively but when run in Win7 under Vmware it does get OpenGl. I have not got native LPT & COM ports on this laptop however.

Barry

tlgerdes
07-07-2013, 10:24 AM
For your protection, means stability of environment. Allowing direct kernel level access would allow people to overwrite portions of memory as well. The whole idea of "virtual" is that we present a consistent interface to everyone and control access to the resources in a measured fashion. You only see the LPT COM and USB in a measured safe fashion that wont disrupt the background OS.

For every 1 that knows what he is doing, there are 500 who don't. Sorry you've become a casualty.

Barrykgerdes
07-07-2013, 10:28 AM
Talking about driver. My new laptop Win 8 does not even have drivers for the inbuilt wifi for Win 7. If I want to run native Win 7 on it I need to use a USB wifi

Barry

AndrewJ
07-07-2013, 11:36 AM
Gday Trevor



That should be my choice. Sure make it difficult to do and require specific steps, but make it possible.



Depends how you do it ;)
Even in XP, i need to run an app like userport to give my app access to the ports programatically "when i want", and when not needed its not used. Works with no problems if used correctly.
( Userport can be set to ONLY allow access to specifically defined locations, ie the LPT port, so no accidental tramping on anything else )



But its tooooo sloooooowwwwwwwwwwwww.



Ahh but i do disrupt the background OS, by elevating my program to absolute max priority when getting data, and dropping it when not.
Even the mouse gets killed when collecting data.
Again, my choice.



Thats why Macs exist:D

( PCs get around it by having a reset button )


Andrew

rat156
07-07-2013, 01:58 PM
To Which Andy J wrote...



So, judging by the numbers of PCs Vs Macs out in the big wide world, the Macs are for the 1 out of 500. :lol:

C'mon Andrew just buy a Mac, that way when it frustrates you, it's got the handle...

Cheers
Stuart

AndrewJ
07-07-2013, 03:36 PM
Gday Stu

Thought that would get a rise :D



Are you implying by this you know what you are doing????.
If so, how about knocking me up a compliant registered driver
that works in 64bit W7.



I'd still be dead in the water for what i want
( and probably couldnt even turn it on. )
Nup. I have 5 spare Sata ports in the box.
I'll just make up a new XP disk and boot into it as reqd.
Much simpler and cheaper.

Andrew

rat156
07-07-2013, 03:44 PM
Of course I know what I'm doing, I bought a mac...

Actually I bought several.

Only one has handles.

I only work on non-compliances, so no go for the driver, oh, and it's the wrong OS.

Cheers
Stuart

Astro_Bot
07-07-2013, 03:45 PM
Or, cheaper again, download and burn a Linux distro with disk/partition tools, boot it, shrink your W7 partition, install XP in the free space, and install a Linux-friendly bootloader like Grub to manage the multi-boot. I've done it many times - works beautifully*.


* Though there is a very small likelihood that you will competely scramble your harddribe and lose all your data. Backup recommended beforehand. ;)

AndrewJ
07-07-2013, 03:52 PM
Gday Astrobot

:shrug:

I already have XP and a HDD, just need to get a Sata cable
and plug it in, so ill pass on learning Linuxy type stuff.
Gotta stick to my Luddite ways, or Stu might faint.

Andrew

tlgerdes
07-07-2013, 06:05 PM
Look at it from the commercial side, if we allowed you to crash your computer by allowing you to poke a hole in the memory space of the background scheduler (hypervisor), then everyone would complain that our software was flaky. Even if we say don't do it as it will cause problems, then you get malware writers that target those attributes just to cause havoc, again we look bad.

The 500 to 1 statement should actually be amended, for every 1 that knows what he is doing there are 500 who think they know what they are doing.:P

You can always write your own x86 hypervisor, god knows everyone including Microsoft and the Linux community think they can.:P

AndrewJ
07-07-2013, 07:17 PM
Gday Trevor



What, you mean they dont complain currently:shrug:
And again, i specifically mentioned access to the LPT port
from "within" my program. Ie if my program owns the thread and the port
why cant i directly read/write to the port.
I'm not after access to the core processes variable space
( as thats reserved for the virus writers )



Not me, i dont even know what a hypervisor is.
And its not as if those who wrote and maintain windozereally know what they are doing, based on the number of patches i currently get :D
I fully understand its not simple, but the bit i want, i could do in XP and i would like to do it in W7.
Anyway, this is getting circular,
Nanny state one, us zip

Andrew

tlgerdes
07-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Might be better to take this offline and PM me or start a new thread.

Steffen
07-07-2013, 09:00 PM
Can everybody please stop ripping into Microsoft? The sub-standard software issued by this company has kept a good two thirds of the IT industry, in Australia too, in bread and butter. If it wasn't for cleaning up after dysfunctional software a good part of the IT services industry would be in recession.

So be careful what you're hating on.

No sane person person would use Microsoft products at home, of course…

Cheers
Steffen.

AndrewJ
07-07-2013, 09:19 PM
Gday Trevor



No point.
I doubt you would have any sway with MS and W7 is probably redundant as far as they are concerned.
I cant do what i want in this case with W7, so as mentioned earlier, i will just go back to XP when i need to.
No dramas and no OS nannies to bother with.

Andrew

Starless
07-07-2013, 11:22 PM
I know just what you mean, rectifying the constant train wrecks that
the bug ridden bloatware, that MS charges people for the privelage of
beta testing, causes kept me employed for fifteen years.:lol:

It's not just the rubbish they peddle I hate it's the utterly unethical
business practises the company employs that really gets me angry.:mad2:

AstralTraveller
08-07-2013, 05:52 PM
Come on now. We all know it was those carpy OS/2 servers you insisted on running that gave you all the grief. :poke::poke::poke::evil2:

If you had just listened to that expert in sales (the one who couldn't work out the size of an email attachment) and run pure M$ you'd never have had a problem. :whistle:

.....

Watch out -- incoming. :scared3:

Starless
08-07-2013, 08:33 PM
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Astroman
08-07-2013, 08:54 PM
I have used Sony Vegas for most of my movies, not really all that difficult if you plan what you want and can handle making many different Video Tracks with Audio tracks... Making use of Event Velocities help in speeding up or slowing down footage to taste... Takes a while to learn but the end result is pretty good... Have you tried After Effects also? apparently you can do lapses with this also...

All else fails print off all the images and make a flip book hehehe... jokes of course :D

Good luck with it Paul, I know it's a pain to find one piece of software that works... that is where being a smarty Program developer would be handy...