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kinetic
18-05-2013, 02:31 AM
Seeing was pretty awesome tonight......
All charts showed it was very promising.
Live preview after midnight was the best I have seen in
years.
Steady half flux ratio of between 1.45-1.70 !!!!!!
The bottom line being steady. I have never seen it that steady.
I got to work gathering a set of the Lagoon.
Cooling was difficult with the dew point at 7c along with ambient at 7c...that meant 100% humidity, which of course meant fog.
I now have fog well set in at nearly 2am.
This set ticks nearly all the boxes for me for the usual niggles I never
seem to get quite right.
Seeing...tick
Focus.....tick
tracking....homemade worm...big tick
No cloud...tick
No wind....apart from man made...tick
cooled CCD ...tick
dew kept at bay...tick
I hereby submit this result for IOTW! consideration ;)
Steve
alpal
18-05-2013, 08:28 AM
Hi Steve,
Nice & sharp in the center.
What are you using for coma correction?
cheers
Allan
strongmanmike
18-05-2013, 08:45 AM
:lol: you were lovin it huh? :cool:
Yeh, pretty good mate, Marc A's gunna love this :thumbsup:
Shame you couldn't get some colour, next time huh? Seeing is no issue for colour either so you can grab it anytime...can you get colour..?
Mike
multiweb
18-05-2013, 01:40 PM
Wow! This is sooo cool. I got a shot that close up but not near the amount and sharpness of details you've got. Kudos to you. :prey2:
DavidU
18-05-2013, 01:45 PM
Awesome Stevo.
irwjager
18-05-2013, 01:52 PM
Congrats on having such a magic night where it just all comes together -
the results speak for themselves! :thumbsup:
Stunning detail. Well done.
What software is that you're using to measure seeing BTW?
batema
18-05-2013, 03:13 PM
Given that I have just processed my Lagoon Lum from last night and I just saw your image I am amazed at the detail you have got. An amazing looking photo. Well done.
Mark
kinetic
18-05-2013, 04:48 PM
Thanks all,
FWIW, I think you should all appeal to Mike S to reinstate the IOTW!!!
Otherwise the site starts to stagnate and not inspire anyone to image anymore.
last IOTW 2nd week of Feb...cmon!:rolleyes:
Premier Southern Hemisphere Astronomy website????
Now off my soapbox, btw he will NEVER make one of my images IOTW ;)
Thanks Allan,
I don't use a coma corrector. The DSI II is bolted straight on at Newt focus but behind the homemade filter wheel (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=36956&highlight=homemade+filter+wheel). There may be some coma in all of my DSI / 12" Newt stuff but I think focus and seeing and tracking are a bigger factor before the coma exhibits any effect. Another contributor to star size and shape at this FL has been stepper motor vibration.
I have dampened that out to almost nil now. This usually appears as elongated stars 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock.
Yes Mike I can get colour, but only through a cheap Meade RGB set I have loaded in the FW.
I don't have the hang of LRGB stuff yet. Gave it a go a few years back, even on Lagoon, but with mixed results. (http://jfbo.webs.com/lagoon_lrgb_mar27_28_2009.jpg)
Thanks Marc, your WF Ha and narrow field Ha stuff lately has really
been inspiring .
Thanks David,:thumbsup:
Michael's going well so far eh :)
Thank you Ivo,
I feel as happy and smug as Hannibal J Smith right now.
I love it when a plan comes together :)
Rob, Nebulosity has a live preview with a HFR meter.
Depending on integration times in preview , it can be better for focusing
than a Bahtinov mask (sp?)
Thanks so much Mark.
gregbradley
18-05-2013, 05:10 PM
Great work.
When the seeing is exceptional it does make imaging special.
Greg.
naskies
18-05-2013, 06:12 PM
Well done! I agree, it'd be great to see this in colour.
peter_4059
18-05-2013, 06:41 PM
Great stuff Steve. It's great to see the DSI II producing these images. I haven't imaged with mine for a while but will never part with it.
kinetic
18-05-2013, 08:34 PM
Thanks again guys,
It is a pretty good set, this is just a prelim processing too, done
while frozen solid at 1:45am in the dome.:cold:
I haven't even cropped out some 2nd rate frames or put it through the
CCDStack deconvolve routine yet.
Edit: Oh what could have been a ripper of M16
Here are the only useable frames of a set of m16 after 2am. Fog set in around 2am.
Steve
kinetic
19-05-2013, 10:54 AM
Here is a more serious go at the set, this time a positive constraint
deconvolve of 120 iterations applied to the raw stack.
No downsize applied after the curves and sharpen, so this is the
full(albeit upsampled 2x ) image.
You can go swimming in this lagoon.
Not bad for a humble DSI II and a Chinese mirror eh?
IOTW? :rolleyes:;)
Steve
naskies
19-05-2013, 11:37 AM
Hmmm... in this version, your bright stars are actually larger and appear very clipped? :question:
I hear that IOTWs tend to be in colour... hint hint :rofl:
kinetic
19-05-2013, 11:43 AM
Hmmm...I haven't compared a 1x old to 1x new, you might be right Dave.
The curves/ levels may have clipped something, it could be the sharpening
that slightly ringed the smaller stars..I will have a look.
Colour?....what if I make the titles colour, will that help?;)
White Rabbit
19-05-2013, 12:59 PM
The fact that you took this with a DSI II is even more impressive, I've never been able to get anything half way decent out of mine.
Well done.
allan gould
19-05-2013, 10:06 PM
Totally awesome Steve. One question, what program did you use to do the positive constraint deconvolve?
Allan
kinetic
20-05-2013, 08:56 PM
Allan, the program is CCDStack.
I do a 120 iteration Pos constraint deconvolve as per one of
Ken Crawford's tutorials.
This works well for nights of above average seeing at this F.L.
Sometimes with the upsample, the set can even handle a few
iterations of sharpening.
hope this helps.
Steve
Ross G
21-05-2013, 08:57 AM
Great looking closeup photo Steve.
Sharp and detailed.
Ross.
kinetic
25-05-2013, 05:40 AM
cheers Ross,
another tweak, this time the set has been put through the wringer
with curve/ upsample trials and severe sharpening.
Remember, this is a 752 x 582 Pixel sensor :)
Steve
multiweb
25-05-2013, 09:30 AM
That last rendition is insane. :thumbsup: HST like. Got my vote for IOTW :lol:
Octane
25-05-2013, 08:36 PM
These are the best DSI images I have ever seen.
Kudos to your perseverance, Steve.
H
Taking it to the extreme, Steve! My pick is the image in post #14. Stellar profiles appear much tighter with aesthetic contrast. A FWHM of 1.45 to 1.70 sure are steady skies and the result speaks for itself. Remarkable! Well done.
Shiraz
28-05-2013, 12:08 AM
Congrats, that really is remarkable detail Steve. seeing has been pretty good lately eh? - but too much of it has been on the other side of the clouds. Regards ray
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