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robagar
07-06-2006, 10:09 PM
A rather interesting story from The Register: (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/07/antikythera_mechanism/)

"A bronze Greek device constructed in around 80BC could be the world's oldest computer, joint British-Greek research seems to suggest. The "Antikythera Mechanism" - consisting more than 30 bronze dials and wheels - was recovered from the wreck of a cargo ship off the Greek island of Antikythera in 1900, the Scotsman reports. Its exact purpose was unknown, although a previous theory centred on it being used to calculate the movement of the planets then known to the Greeks: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
The researchers from the universities of Cardiff, Athens and Thessalonika now believe they are close to cracking the mystery, by bringing to bear very modern X-ray technology which has revealed a previously-hidden Greek inscriptions which may confirm the planetary hypothesis."

Full text + images here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/07/antikythera_mechanism/).

astroron
07-06-2006, 11:03 PM
It looks like an old steering wheel!, but they didn't have cars in those days :lol: but it is a very interesting story all the same.
Thanks for posting :thumbsup:

Nightshift
07-06-2006, 11:03 PM
Ummmm, doesnt the ancient Chinese Abacus count? It predates this by only a few thousand years. Im guessing it's something to do with navigation and nothing to do with calculating numbers. Interesting though.

robagar
08-06-2006, 08:39 AM
I guess an abacus is really just a counting device which doesn't compute anything in itself. The calculations are done by the person holding it. But this device (if it is an analogue computer) actually does the sums.

h0ughy
08-06-2006, 09:07 AM
but technology is technology, and at the time whatever it was it would have looked as impressive as whipping out the paocket PC or the palm and doing a calculation to someone who never seen one before. Lets see when the doco comes out?

slice of heaven
08-06-2006, 09:47 AM
Nice find Rob. :thumbsup:
The knowledge of ancient astronomers always impresses me more than modern day astronomy. In those times , that device would have been more like a super computer.

This link shows more detailed workings and pics of the device.
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~tony/whatsnew/column/antikytheraI-0400/kyth1.html
antikythera1-1

robagar
08-06-2006, 01:02 PM
cool, thanks for the link slice o' heaven. Truly amazing that something so sophisticated was made over 2000 years ago. Those greeks were pretty clever, an error of 0.001% on the year/lunar month ratio ain't bad at all.

I love ancient astronomy too - must be from being taken to Stonehenge, Avebury and other stone circles and megaliths when I was little :)

robagar
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
http://www.antikythera-mechanism.gr/ is the research project website. Not much content there yet, but the 3D animation of the CT scan is pretty cool.

robagar
09-06-2006, 03:25 PM
... and there's a very good 3D interactive simulation here (http://www.codersworkshop.com/viewshowcase.php?id=302)