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ving
01-06-2006, 09:14 AM
Seeing double ~ Lupus

Welcome to the second installment of my project Seeing Double. You know, the good thing about looking at doubles is if the seeing is making your planets look like they are made out of jelly or the local playing fields floodlights are facing in your backyard there’s always doubles!

This month we are heading a bit closer to the southern horizon. 2 constellations down from last months crux is lupus.

Lupus ~ Latin for wolf

Lupus has no extremely bright stars, but has around thirty stars of second and third magnitude, the brightest is Alpha Lupi, or Men, a blue giant. Lupus is also host to soooo many doubles its not funny. I have only picked out the ones I have observed.
Lupus is wedged between centaurus and scorpius and holds a few dim DSOs for those that want to hunt them like the globular ncg 5966 right smack bang in the middle of the constellation. Check it out while you are in the area.
On to the doubles…

**Once again, colours mentioned are the colours that I saw and not necessarily the colours you will see. If you see any different to me why not post it here :)**

1-DUN 160: 4.53/ 8.92 157."------- Bright blue A fainter red B large separation very pretty combo and our first port’o call for Lupus… (don’t expect them all to be this easy ;))

2-beta Lupus: 2.60/11.29 198.6"---- Not picked for its beauty beta is gunna be a challenge for small scopes. There is a huge difference in mags but there is sufficient separation that B doesn’t get drowned in the primary’s glow. A is brilliant white in my scope B is hard to distinguish in colour due to its low brightness. Pick your B star carefully as there are 2 stars near it of similar mag.

3-DUN 171; 7.07/ 9.55 17.6"------- GAH! Had it… didn’t… did. White brighter pimary with yellow/red secondary. fair separation makes this one easy if you can find the bloomin star by hoping. Am still not sure about this one so if someone else finds it tell me what you saw.

4-DUN 183: 4.59/ 9.38 93.2"---- Time to throw a pretty one in. A tipple system, this one’s A star is bright white while the dimmer B and C stars show as red at low magnification. Its just a hop skip and a jump from delta lupus making it an easy find.

5-HJ 4776: 6.33/ 8.35 5.6"------------ A closeish double of white and yellow. This one can be split at low to mid powers but will look better at high powers. Dim and pretty… much like some super models ;)

6-HJ 4788: 4.68/ 6.51 2.1" ------did I hear you say “ving, where are the close ones?” well here you go. You are going to have to use planetary style magnification on the is (or really good seeing). Nice when the seeing is good and a pain when its not the primary is white and the secondary is yellow.

7-RMK 21: 3.37/ 7.50 14.8" -------- The main star of this double makes a triangle with 2 near by stars. Just a hop up from theta lupus it’s another easy find. Star A is white and I am currently debating (with myself) whether B is green or not. Looked green to me. Not being particularly close, medium mags show the fore mentioned triangle which makes for a pretty picture :D

8-PZ 4: 5.09/ 5.56 10.3"------ Tighty whities… that’s what Cheryl calls undies but it could be used to describe this double too. Like a pair of bright white eyes these to stars star at your eyeball down the eyepiece. No high magnification needed here.

9-DUN: 179 7.32/ 8.53 10.5”----------- b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l. Not too tight but enjoying high magnification, this double consists of a yellow primary and blue secondary. Its not hard to find so enjoy :)

10-dun 176: 3.50/ 6.74 71.8"---------- forming one of the points of the wolf… maybe and ear, maybe an nose, or tail (buggered if I can see a wolf ) is this bright double. A is white and B showed as blue/white in my scope.


11-HJ 4723: 7.57/ 9.99 4.7" ------ near open cluster NGC 5800 this one consists of an orange primary and a blue/green secondary, had a bugger of a time finding this. I need goto or dsc at least.

Sharp splitting! :P

h0ughy
01-06-2006, 09:17 AM
thanks Ving Will have a good look this month

rmcpb
01-06-2006, 09:20 AM
Dave,

Ever thought of setting these up as articles so they print out better. They are a great resource and if they were filed in the article section they would be easily found.

Brilliant work, I love the leads.

ving
01-06-2006, 09:23 AM
rob, go to "thread tools" at the top of the thread and click on "show printable version".
is this what you mean?

JohnG
01-06-2006, 10:24 AM
Good work Ving :thumbsup: these are the things the 4" Tak excells at...........if and when I ever get any clear skies.:mad2:

JohnG

janoskiss
01-06-2006, 12:09 PM
I have created a pdf document from Ving's post and attached it to first post in this thread. It includes a more printer friendly version of the finder chart with black stars on white background. ;) On the downside the pdf is a bit big at 112kB. Thanks David! Looking forward to hunting these down. :)

- made the thread a sticky too. ;)

ving
01-06-2006, 12:24 PM
thanks for that Steve... so good i downloaded it myself! :)
is that a hint? :P I shall endevour to make the chart white background from now on :)

is it staying sticky till i do the next one?

janoskiss
01-06-2006, 12:39 PM
No, not really. Black background is probably better for online viewing, especially because jpeg compression adds a lot of crud to the image which is a lot more visible with black-on-white than tother way round. (I managed to clean most of it up in the gimp. ;)). Lossless PNG compression works better than JPEG for chart.


Sure, if the boss likes it as much as I do. :)

Oops my finger slipped. I made a booh-booh in the pdf doc - fixed now.

ving
01-06-2006, 01:06 PM
thanks Mr H. hope you corrected all my spelling and grammer errors too :)

I am hoping to take some pics of some of these stars soonish, so stay posted!

next constellation has been started... this is kinda fun :)

Miaplacidus
01-06-2006, 01:47 PM
You star, Ving!

Er, make mine a double...

Thanx.:drink:

janoskiss
01-06-2006, 02:05 PM
Nope. I left alone the original moo-cow spelling and grammerer. :P

rmcpb
05-06-2006, 12:32 PM
Dave,

Thanx for this article, I really enjoyed it last night as the moon was very bright so I attacked Lupus with the help of your article.

Still think it would be a great series in the Articles section where you would end up witha library of doubles by constellation, what a rescource.

Thanx

ving
05-06-2006, 01:54 PM
thanks for the feedback rob :)
I hope I can do this monthly, it's be great. mike can put it in the articles if he wants (as is or changed).

ving
15-06-2006, 12:29 PM
well, as you probably know i got myself a cheap lpi :)
on the weekend i took the oportunity to practice for an hour or 2 with it and i managed to shoot pz4 (number 8 on this list). while its not that tight it proved to be fun anyhow.
the shot consists of 30 sec @ 15fps, the shutter speed was 1/125th i think.

fringe_dweller
15-06-2006, 04:01 PM
Nice Job Vingster! I have to get used to this idea of Ving the Astro Imager, I think I am going to like it! :)

ving
15-06-2006, 04:23 PM
all i have to do is get my orientation right and i can start using reduc for measurements :D
now thats exciting!

astronut
16-06-2006, 07:52 AM
Ving, Bring it all to The Oaks on Saturday

ving
16-06-2006, 12:40 PM
crikey john, thats alot of gear! the battery in my laptop is stuffed tho and i'd need a power supply for it. any ideas?

janoskiss
29-06-2006, 01:07 AM
Got #1-6, #9. Also discovered some more. :D Check out lambda Lupus and the brightest star about 1/2 degree away. More here: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=11227