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MarkN
25-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Well, last night I thought I’d settle the matter once and for all. Which has the edge, optically speaking, S-C or Newtonian.

Temperature was a bearable 12 deg. and humidity 45-50% so out they both went at 9:00 pm to cool down for about 30 mins.

The main target was obvious - Jupiter.

The Meade was nice at 118X with the 17mm and OK at 133X with a 15 mm GS plossl. The shadow of a moon was apparent with both views. I thought the seeing would hold up with the 11 mm., but not tonight. The cloud belts degenerated to bands with little detail.

Now for the 10” Bintel Newt: Started with the 11 mm (114X) for a similar power to the Meade/17 mm. Brilliant! More cloud detail immediately apparent. Next was the 8 mm. (156X); still good detail with little loss in detail. Lastly, 6 mm. View broke down here, which was odd considering that about a week ago just after some rain, the view still held up at 208X.

Then came about 3 hours sky tour which included E. Car., O. Cent., Cent. A, clusters and nebulae in Scorpius and Sag. M87 in Virgo; And yes, the M87 view was only that, a view but I find it overwhelming to think that the light we see now left when the dinosaurs still had a few million years to live. That it can be seen at all in 8-10 inch scopes is something to be wondered at.

Finally, the Ring nebula got a going over towards 1.30 am. Main difference was marginally more contrast inside the ring for Newt.

I am left with the firm impression that the reflector design showed its superiority on every target. If I am ever to get another scope it will be a Newtonian in 16-18 inches.

It should be said that the Meade is no slouch and the red dot LNT finder was used to locate the fuzzies for the Newt.

Happy viewing all.

Mark.

Starkler
25-05-2006, 11:23 PM
Careful , you'll open a big can of worms here :lol:

To seriously compare, both scopes would need to have been properly cooled and accurately collimated. Did you do this ?

MarkN
25-05-2006, 11:47 PM
Starkler

Both scopes are in good shape according to the tools and testing guides that I have.

Not interested in starting an astronomical WWIII. I have no intention of off-loading the Meade which is an great combination of opbcs and portability.

Again, the post was not intended as a test; rather, a report of my thoughts after an observing session just as the thread title said. Just stated what my eyes saw at the time.

Mark.

janoskiss
25-05-2006, 11:53 PM
From your post it sounds more like you would be off-loading the Newt if anything. :lol:

Your results are not surprising. Newt probably cools faster as well as having a smaller CO. Thanks for sharing. :)

ving
26-05-2006, 04:46 PM
according to your signatur the newt had an extra 2 inches of aperture. that can make all the difference you know. :)

Striker
26-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Thanks Mark and we understand that your not SCT bashing...just making an observation but honestly if the 10" Newt at F6 didn't perform better then a 8" SCT at F10 I would be taking the Newt back.....I think if the question was asked everyone would agree with you that the newt is superior for visuals.

mickoking
26-05-2006, 05:24 PM
Thanks for that interesting comparison mark :thumbsup: