Uranometria 2000 Deep Sky Atlas

[The Mekon]

Can someone advise what is the availablity of this atlas and its true price?

I have seen prices form a very low $50 (not in stock) to ridiculous prices like $700 per volume from amazon second hand.

What was the original price of the first edition, the current price of the new edition and where can you buy it?

thanks in advance.

[barx1963]

Bintel have it.
The Atlases are $89 and the Deep Sky Guide is $119. The DSG is useful but not essential.
I have all 3 and the atlases are excellent. The only issue is they plot so many objects that you need the HST to see. Even my 20" struggles to see many objects.
But I wouldn't be without them. Along with the Night Sky Observers Guides (3 vols) and a simple allsky chart, its all I need to observe.

Malcolm

[Merlin66]

I have to agree....
The Uranometria atlases have stood the test of time very well....
Yes, you can get Torres' electronic versions and use CdC with the added catalogues to give more detailed info., but they do feel good to handle and have!!!

[Paddy]

I find the Uranometria volumes 1 and 2 are fantastic for all my star-hooping needs. I don't have the field guide, but use the night sky observer's guide to find out what I want to chase up with uranometria. Well worth $180 for vol I&II. I've never felt the need for the third volume.

[barx1963]

I have just noticed that Willman Bell have released a single edition version see here http://www.willbell.com/u2k/index.htm

Malcolm

[The Mekon]

Yes thanks all,

It appears the volumes can be obtained and not at the outrageous price on Amazon.
What threw me was that Bintels web site does not list it.
I intend to place a wanted ad soon.

[barx1963]

Bintel definitely list them, here are the links

http://www.bintel.com.au/Accessories/Books--Charts-and-Software/Uranometria-2000-Northern-Hemisphere/661/productview.aspx

http://www.bintel.com.au/Accessories/Books--Charts-and-Software/Uranometria-2000-Southern-Hemisphere/662/productview.aspx

http://www.bintel.com.au/Accessories/Books--Charts-and-Software/Uranometria-Deep-Sky-Guide/663/productview.aspx

Theu don't list the new all sky edition as that has only just been released

Malcolm

[Shark Bait]

I have also been tempted to purchase copies of Uranometria 2000 I & II. Now that a new combined volume has been released I will have to reconsider.

It would be interesting to know if they have deleted any of the content when combining the two volumes?

[The Mekon]

I checked again and it seems I did not notice that the books and charts extended beyond 5 pages on the site. I missed the "next" button.

Thanks

[Scorpius51]

That'd be right. I have had Vol 2 for some time, and I have Vol 1 on the way. Now you can get both together for half the price!!!:rolleyes:

[mithrandir]

Well, you buy the 1 volume edition, and send it round so I can compare it with the 3 volume one I have. :P

[Geoff45]

It seems you can't order them from OS. Willman-Bell seem to be able to tie that one up. I got mine from Bintel and wouldn't leave home without it. I think the Deep Sky Guide (Vol 3) is a must if you're into astrophotography.
Geoff

[Stardrifter_WA]

Sorry Geoff, totally incorrect:

You can order them direct from Willmenn Bell. Mine are in transit from them now, and at a minimum of 32% less (for the set) than that from local supply and furthemore it is the "All Sky" edition, I order a lot from Willmen Bell and have never had an issue. The All Sky edition is USD 59,95, The Acetate overlay (set of 3 ) USD 14,95 and the Field Guide USD 59.95 and freight is USD 32 approximately, depending on which freight you choose. All up, it is approximately $217 landed. I am not sure what actual cost is as I have not factored in the exchange rate, which, of course is in our favour. This compares well considering that the cheapest I could find the Field Guide in Oz was $199, so in effect, I am getting the other two items for $18. And that is not taking into consideration that getting local stock has freight on top anyway.

Here is the link http://www.willbell.com/u2k/index.htm

Maybe I can order direct as I am in the West and not located in Sydney, I don't know, but I doubt it makes any difference. They have nothing on there website that says anything different.

Cheers Peter

[Stardrifter_WA]

An update:

Just checked my credit card and the cost of all three items, as previously explained below, is AUD 205.83 after exchange rate applied with an International Transaction Fee of AUD 6.17.

So, total cost landed, for all three items, is AUD 212. This is great, as the Field Guide in Australia is $199, so I have paid, essentially nothing for the other two items, as the $13 difference would have been eaten up by postage if I had purchased just the field guide from NSW. And people wonder why we buy overseas.

I do prefer to support local suppliers and have spent many thousands of dollars on astro and photo gear here in Australia. Sometimes, I just cannot justify paying a premium price for an item.

Cheers Peter

[barx1963]

Peter
The Field Guide is $119 from Bintel.

Malcolm

[Stardrifter_WA]

:D

Opps, my bad, thanks Malcolm for pointing that error out, I appreciate it. My mind is questionable at best, at the moment. Have no idea where I got 199 from :question::question:

Marginally still better of, particularly, considering that I am getting the All Sky edition. All three volumes from Bintel are 298.90; 89.95 each for Volume 1 and 2 (and $209 for Volume two and Field Guide as you don't really need volume 1) The Field Guide alone is $119 as you correctly pointed out.

Still much cheaper.


Cheers.

[barx1963]

If anyone was buying these they would still need both volumes as the Souythern Hemisphere one only covers up to 6 deg N, so huge chunks of our sky (think Leo, Pegasus, Gemini!) that are not covered by the Southern volume. That's why I am glad that they have gone to an all sky edition.
When my Southern volume is too tatty for further use (it's not far off!) I will update with the new edition. Hopefully Bintel have it by then!

Malcolm

[Shark Bait]

I spoke to the good people at Bintel today about this. Don told me that he should be receiving the all sky edition with the next shipment.

I will have to make up my mind quickly. Get Vol I & II while they are still available or wait....:question:

[slt]

I received my "all sky" edition today, along with a Night Sky Observer's Guide. It will replace a 29 year old colour copy of Tirion's Skyatlas 2000.0, which has served me well, but its large format always made it a bit unwieldy. The new Uranometria looks very nice indeed. I ordered it directly from WB, and these were by far the best packaged books I ever received from anyone, absolutely pristine!

[barx1963]

Good to hear Gunther. One thing I haven't been able to find out is if the scale is the same as the old 2 vol set? They are 12deg in NS with a 1deg overlap between charts.

Malcolm

[slt]

I don't own the 2 vol set, so can't compare directly, but there are 220 charts pole to pole (plus 26 at a larger scale of selected regions). Most of the 220 are as you say 12 deg in Dec, with a 1 deg overlap, but two "strips" between 30 and 17 deg, and 18 and 05 deg (both N and S) are 13 deg in Dec (I think because there is less curvature, so more fits on one page, overall scale appears to be the same). Page size is 305 by 220 mm. There's a copyright notice printed on all pages, 1997-2001, so I assume they're all just reprints of the original work.