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Eggmoon
09-01-2013, 11:56 PM
Ok,

So the seeing wasn't great that night... and one or two frames in the middle of the movie are really poor... oh, and the planet went behind the edge of my house when the spot was 2/3 of the way around... but heck, this was an experiment!!!

Wasn't even intending to do an animation at the start of the night... it just sort of happened. That is ( I think ) the shadow of Io catching up to the red spot. This was all taken in the night of the 5th of January, well into the morning of the 6th. Think it was almost 2 hours of capture time, 106Gb of data in 29 individual AVI Files. The puppy was a big help in passing the time... running after her to retrieve lens covers for my eye pieces that she chewed quite to bits in the dark was such a help.... thanks Koko! :screwy:

Each frame started out as 2,000 captured frames in an AVI... a couple in the middle are less when some cloud came over and wrecked part of them. Someone should make it a rule that we only have cloud in daylight hours.... ;)

BackyardEOS for capture, AVIStack for stacking and wavelets, and Photoshop to level the frames and do the animated GIF file.

Geoff

orestis
10-01-2013, 07:57 AM
:eyepop:Wow, that is awesome. 105 Gb of data:eek:.

That is really cool, what camera and telescope where u using ?

Thanks for posting
Orestis:thumbsup:

Eggmoon
10-01-2013, 08:06 AM
LX90 8" and a Canon 60D, no mods.

And fot that night, a lot of patience and coffee. :)

TechnoViking
10-01-2013, 09:06 AM
Geoff that is awesome:thumbsup:!! 106gb of data woah, are you using a solid state drive to process the data? I couldn't imagine how long it would take to process that amount of data, unless of course if you have a high spec PC.

Im really impressed!!!:)

Eggmoon
10-01-2013, 09:44 AM
Oh I am a geek alright.... plenty of processing power to throw at this sort of stuff. You heard of BOINC? Look it up if you haven't. Distributed processing system... I crunch data for several projects, SETI (Search for Extraterrestial Intelligence), Einstein (Gravity wave project), MilkyWay (Galactic physics stuff), LHC (Large Hadron Collider) and PrimeGrid (Search for mega primes) among others. Currently sitting 37th in Australia for total processing. :D Geek pride moment.

But this was all Jupiter image data captured on my laptop, no solid state drive on that. The new laptop I am planning to buy does have... but thats another story and a bit of saving away.

It took all day to process the data... but then, AVIStack has a batch process... so once you have the first one done, just queue up the others and go to work for the day... come back that afternoon and it's... ok, in this case not done... but was 3/4 of the way done.

There is no such thing as too much computer power.... ;)

Geoff

TechnoViking
10-01-2013, 06:12 PM
I remember a tech i worked with once was telling me about BOINC? something about using thousands of computers to process packets of data , and act like a super computer?

In my OB im only running a core2 3.1ghz, 6gb ram, 128gb Samsung SS HD, 500gb WD Black HDD running windows 7 pro 64bit, named Frankenstein.
I was really suprised how fast i could process data on this 4 year old PC! it is almost as quick as my main rig which is roughly double the specs (without the Solid State) instead it uses a WD Veloci 10k rpm 300gb HDD, for the OS, and 4TB for Storage, which backs up to a NAS drive while im sleeping :)

I find Solid State HDDs to still be very unreliable, ive had 3 of them now in just on 2 years, the best brand by far is the Samsung, with the Intel drives coming a close second. For speed and data transfer they can not be beaten, but for long time storage stick to platter drives.

I really am going to have to try out some animated gifs, I might have to setup a little coffee station.

Eggmoon
10-01-2013, 08:45 PM
Yes, coffee is essential.

My main rig has SSD's for the OS and Program files... the stuff I have on DVD's and that can be re-installed. The 6TB of storage is a RAID 5 setup on Seagate drives... should be safe enough. Plus I have another 2TB in an external storage system. I used to think that would be enough... but having collected 750GB of data in the last 3 months through my scope...... oh dear...

BOINC, yes a distributed comuter system, that has a huge amount of power. 2 million + users around the world, overall it hits an average of 7,200 TeraFLOPS.... that is some serious processing power! The worlds fastest supercomputer does 17,000 TerraFLOPS-ish... and 7,200 would rank BOINC as the 5th fastest supercomputer in the world.... if it were a single computer. :eyepop:

I see that IceInSpace has a team that mainly crunches Einstein Gravity Wave data, several member here contribute... accumulated 8 and a bit million points as a team. Is this where I boast and say that I have just under 4 Million Einstein points on my own? And 139 millions points across all my projects? Hee hee... told you I am a geek!

But as to the animated GIF's... was actually pretty easy to do once all the data was collected. Quite a worthwhile little experiment. One day I will try and capture that data through my Powermate 2.5x and see how that goes... :D

Jupiter is a good one for the animated GIF's, as the spot moves by quickly, and so do the moons. Most other targets are really pretty stationary... so it was an experiment that has very few applications really... but was a fun exercise none the less.

EricB
10-01-2013, 08:51 PM
I am not sure I understand the computer stuff, but I sure enjoy the animation. Well done Geoff!:thumbsup:

TechnoViking
10-01-2013, 09:35 PM
Mmmm what i would give to own "Road Runner" ***drooool***

There is a guy on youtube i watch a lot of ... Thunderf00t, here is his Jupiter Animation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3romNxOf4

enjoy

rmuhlack
11-01-2013, 11:14 AM
Nice work. Also, I'm glad i'm not the only one who has to chase a mischievous thieving puppy around the backyard in the middle of the night!! :rofl:

doppler
11-01-2013, 05:08 PM
Nice to see something a bit different. Still images can be great but astro animation is a whole new field. Great stuff. Canines are good company late at night, but mine likes to dig holes.. that invariably trip me in the dark.

brian nordstrom
11-01-2013, 07:50 PM
:shrug: I watched that same video ( GRS and black spot , shadow ? ) on the same night in real time with my Istar/Saxon 127mm f/8 refractor 9mm Nagler's at 110x naked eye viewing , for about 3 hours , all that info is still in my memory , looked good ( I wondered what that black spot was , thanks ).:thumbsup: .
Thanks for the movie Geoff its a beauty.
I would love to know how many Gb's went into my brain via my eyes ( bino viewing ) over the same period of time viewing the same panarama ?? cool .
Brian.

Eggmoon
12-01-2013, 02:55 PM
Lets try some simple math... which wont be totally right, but roughly in the ball park.

I was capturing at 1024 x 680, or 0.696 megapixels.

I read somewhere on the internet that the human eye is about 570 megapixels.

So you would have seen 106 / 0.696 x 572, or just over 42 TerraBytes. :eyepop:

This does not allow for gaps between each of my captures, does not deal with if you "see" the black background around Jupiter, and so is that data captured... and many other things...

But you saw a heck of a lot!!!

Geoff.

Mark_Heli
13-01-2013, 10:14 PM
Hi Geoff,

That's a great animation...

Cheers,
Mark