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Lester
16-05-2006, 07:41 PM
Hi everyone,
Here is shot of Jupiter when seeing was only 5/10 captured at 5 fps. One thing Asi and I noticed that the Toucam could use a faster shutter speed than the Neximage with everything else the same pritty well. Also the Neximage with capture at 10 and 15 fps would show horizontal lines across the image where the Toucam would not. Although these are supposed to be identical cameras we think somehow the Toucam is more light sensitive.

Astroman
16-05-2006, 09:46 PM
WOW look at that image scale. AWESOME!!!!! Nice works guys under harsh seeing. gotta be happy with that.

asimov
16-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Hmmmmmm.....Now how did you get the image that big I wonder.....Perhaps a resize in registax @ 200%....as well as a mitchell filter..hmmm? :)

Lester
16-05-2006, 11:10 PM
Yes Asi,

To view this image I had to open the curtains and go out side the house, looks good from about 5 metres. I only remembered half of what you showed me last night, and I forgot to resize it down.

asimov
16-05-2006, 11:18 PM
'DING!'....'And there at it again! "BOO!.:mad2: ..HISS" go the crowd!! Round 18 of the asi-cam versus Lest-image bantum-weight-crap-image prize fight!!':eyepop:

Heres my 5 framer...Same scope/seeing/close to identical settings/image scale/...different camera/laptop :P :rofl:

Lester
16-05-2006, 11:45 PM
Okay Mr Asimov,

I just processed this one enough to apply the knock out punch, of course I am a biased referee.

asimov
16-05-2006, 11:54 PM
Ok...Now resampling @ 2X then applying 200% resize....stand back from your window 500m with bino's at the ready....

Lester
17-05-2006, 12:30 AM
Okay mate,

Its getting a bit cold out side to view the computer screen, so I scaled this one down like I was told last night, can't remember who told me.

asimov
17-05-2006, 07:24 AM
Heres the one I got with the extension tube Lester, the seeing was not up to it as we know. Must have restacked this one 5 different ways, looking best by stacking 101 frames.

Lester
17-05-2006, 07:45 AM
Well that doesn't surprise me you added the arroma of onion in that one.

All jokes aside Asi, I do like your colouring better than mine and the edges are more crisp. I think it is your processing skills that are showing up more so than the camera characteristics. Does your 15fps shot show onion rings to a high degree, koz mine does.

asimov
17-05-2006, 07:54 AM
Just stacking the 15 FPS now...may get it posted before going to work.

asimov
17-05-2006, 08:16 AM
Here it is. This is the one where I mentioned I could actually see the onion rings on screen as I was capturing? This is a real quick stack & process. 211 frames stacked. You can get it slightly better onion ring wize by stacking less frames, but still noticable.

:hi:

Lester
17-05-2006, 08:22 AM
Hi Asi,

Well as far as fine detail goes I think the 15fps wins and bearing in mind that it was rush processed it could even be better.

I will try a 15 fps some time today as well.

Have a good one mate.

Lester
17-05-2006, 08:29 AM
Oh darn,

just checked my Avis and I had deleted all the 15fps shots yesterday koz they were so bad with onion rings=much worse than yours Asi. So I am doing a 10 fps extentiontube 2x barlow version.

asimov
17-05-2006, 12:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing it.

Lester
17-05-2006, 02:05 PM
Sorry to keep you waiting,

This is the best detail I could get. To lessen the onion rings I had to lower the contrast and increase the brightness which washed out the detail.:doh:

Don't view your screen from any closer than 1 metre and it looks okay to me.

Comments welcome as I am still learning the processing with so many variations.

Lester
17-05-2006, 02:10 PM
Hi everyone,

The entry no. 9 is taken with the same set up as no.16

no.9=Toucam by Asimov

no.16=Neximage by Lester

Cast your votes.

asimov
17-05-2006, 06:07 PM
Pity about the onions. Nice shot considering the conditions.

Eventually you will come up with a set of rules, or guide lines to follow as far as processing go's. Until you become totally familiar with all the options at your disposal, your doing the right thing by fiddling & trying different things!

Well done I reckon...I was expecting far worse images than what we got!

Lester
17-05-2006, 06:17 PM
Thanks Asi,

Will have another shootout soon.

At midday I thought tonight might be a goer, then the clouds came in. Just looked out the window and WOW they are breaking up again.

Hope you got your baby in the chiller. I am off to pack mine in ice.

Have a good one.

asimov
17-05-2006, 07:34 PM
It's breaking up again!? You beaudy!....

One of the 2 10FPS av's...

Lester
18-05-2006, 05:49 PM
Hi everyone,

This image is 10fps 2x barlow and extention tube. But best 150 hand picked and stacked. Registax will throw some rubbish in if you let it.

Minimal processing in PP= unsharp mask, Colour contrast only. Colour contrast increased onion rings, or I should say contrast on any kind increases onion rings.

Comments welcome.

Asi I think the larger image=2x barlow and extention tube has real potential.

Robert_T
19-05-2006, 05:23 PM
wow It's Big