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Old 15-10-2010, 08:40 AM
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Is this Eta Carina's Future?

Iteresting SN inside dust cloud found by the Spitzer IR telescope.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1012113832.htm


Maybe we should be looking for a sudden brightening in IR rather than visible.

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Old 15-10-2010, 09:25 AM
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Good stuff Bert! I saw this story yesterday and was immediately taken by the science at work here, 'hidden' in the hoopla of the media release. So they have an 'anomolous' observation which they model against what we do know of these things, and then point out how their hypothesis can be tested - ie if the modelling is correct, WISE should see certain things at a certain rate and we should see a visible brightening of the object in 10 years time. Media releases so often can be taken as bald statements of 'fact' but really they represent pretty arbitrary points in a constant series of feedback loops that progress our understanding of the Universe.

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Old 15-10-2010, 09:25 AM
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I don't know if eta Carina has enough dust around it to hide it, I suspect not. However open to evidence to the contrary
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Old 15-10-2010, 10:21 AM
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Its interesting to note that this observation was made as the object peaked at a mid-infra-red absolute magnitude of about -24.2 in the 4.5 micron Spitzer/IRAC band. This band remains productive nonetheless, after the liquid He depletion of Spitzer, in late 2009.

The WISE telescope is referred to at the end of the article as the place to look for more of them:
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"I would expect WISE to see 100 of these events in two years, now that we know what to look for"
From Wiki:

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The WISE group's bid for continued funding for an extended "warm mission" was recently scored low by a NASA review board, in part because of a lack of outside groups publishing on WISE Data. Such a mission would have allowed use of the 3.4 and 4.6 micrometre detectors after the last of cryo-coolant had been exhausted, with the goal of completing a second sky survey to detect additional objects and obtain parallax data on putative brown dwarf stars.
WISE has already completed one total sky coverage survey, in July of this year.

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Old 20-10-2010, 11:05 AM
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Wow that was a great informative read!
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Old 20-10-2010, 11:27 AM
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Thanks for posting that Birt A very interesting read.
I had missed this thread completely
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Old 20-10-2010, 03:21 PM
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And people are not only looking at its future, they're constantly combing its past as well. This paper provides new analysis of the Great Eruption:

http://arxiv4.library.cornell.edu/PS...010.3719v1.pdf

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