I just bought an 8X50 finder (thanks Ash) which happened to have a 4.5" Celestron firstscope and EQ2 (as I later discovered) mount attached. Well not quite attached. It took me a long time to find the moon but not as long as collimating the scope in the first place with a quite expensive - certainly more expensive than the scope - Orion sight tube from Bintel. First light was sunrise over the Jura Mountains on the shores of the Bay of Rainbows (as I later discovered). Truly stunning. Second was Clavius (made famous in the well known Bollywood flick- 201 minutes: A Spice Idiocy or was it that BBC miniseries: I, Clavius - as a Government employee I really appreciate the original Clavius who devised the Gregorian Calendar - he believed in a geocentric universe too). So I discovered that this scope with a 9 mm Plossl and 2X ($19) Barlow (ie 200X I believe), at least for the Moon, is truly brilliant. So this setup answers a few questions for me, ie what can you see in a small scope, how stable does a mount have to be and how heavy is it to lug around etc etc. But now to a question. This morning at 4 am Jupiter was just rising over the shed and looked really great at 100X but cloud bands were not obvious. Do I need a filter or was it just the seeing?