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Old 07-12-2012, 08:54 PM
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What's going on in the middle of Australia?

APOD shows an updated picture of the Earth at Night. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap121207.html

But what is going on?

This picture shows more light in the middle of Australia than around the coast.

Can this be right
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:59 PM
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And very dark over Indonesia & PNG...

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Old 07-12-2012, 09:01 PM
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Good point, I noticed that too.

Surely it can't be mines, I'd be curious to know. I'm calling shenanigans.

I don't like this apod much, it's far more depressing than the other one.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:01 PM
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Peter, I had precisely the same thought when I saw that. Makes no sense at all.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:05 PM
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The only thing those could be is minesites. I'm surprised by the apparent brightness and extent though.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:08 PM
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I guess it could be, if you look up between the UK and Norway you can see the oil platforms too.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:13 PM
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Good point, I noticed that too.

Surely it can't be mines, I'd be curious to know. I'm calling shenanigans.

I don't like this apod much, it's far more depressing than the other one.
Looks like the mines, my brother is over in Newman at the mines and its in that area where its all lit up.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:14 PM
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The only thing those could be is minesites. I'm surprised by the apparent brightness and extent though.
I very much doubt whether there are that many big mine sites, as most of the area show are reserves and desert, apart from Alice Springs and surrounds.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:20 PM
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The lights seem to be displaced well to the East of the actual major mining centres. Maybe the kangaroos are up to something, out there in the saltbush and spinifex country?
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:24 PM
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Min min lights?

Plenty of other anomolies being pointed out:
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30321

Whatever the infrared imager is picking up, it ain't necessarily city lights.

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Old 07-12-2012, 09:34 PM
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Min min lights?

Plenty of other anomolies being pointed out:
http://asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30321

Whatever the infrared imager is picking up, it ain't necessarily city lights.

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The mystery lights are outback wildfires, according to the linked video halfway down that page - I wouldn't have guessed that!
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:40 PM
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Seems most strange-looks like the Tanami desert area.

Even if mine lighting showed up,there would not be that much so
wide spread.Hope to read an explanation for the showing on image.

Maybe someones just bodgyed up an image and put it up hopping
no one would notice.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:56 PM
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Very dodgy...!

Maybe if its imaging in IR it is picking up hot rocks in the desert . It also seems to have missed or underrepresented several big urban areas. Look at Sydney for instance. It looks barely bigger than the lights on Groote Eylandt in the gulf of capentaria - and you would be hard pressed spotting the town there when you are IN it, let alone from several hundred kilometres away...

I also don't believe the outback lights are wildfires. I think we might have heard about those
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:01 PM
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Campfires
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:06 PM
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And Darwin seems to have almost disappeared!

Clear skies

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http://youtu.be/Q3YYwIsMHzw?hd=1

I see quite a few areas that hold my interest...

  • Nile River Valley
  • Fishing boats off the coast of Perú ?
  • Barrow Alaska
  • Would have expect a light (or two) around McMurdo and Mawson stations
  • Four dots around Greenland... ships I assume?
  • The North Sea is well lit up !
  • If I had to guess, I'd say there's a dot for Barrow Island
  • Love the outline of India, you can tell where India stops and Pakistan starts.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:21 PM
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The mystery lights are outback wildfires, according to the linked video halfway down that page - I wouldn't have guessed that!
I believe that...

When there was no direct flight to Barrow, I used to fly via Karratha and we'd always see smoke off in the distance.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:30 PM
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Check out the sizes of the 'patches' in the 'patchwork quilt'. They easily cover 2-3 timzones in each frame so there would be uneven lighting.

Still doesn't explain why WA is so bright, just why east coast and png are dark.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:23 PM
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The only thing those could be is minesites. I'm surprised by the apparent brightness and extent though.
No mine sites in those areas though. The mines are further west and north. The areas which are lit up on that image are literally deserted, one of the emptiest parts of Australia.

The only plausible explanation I can think of is lightning from thunderstorms. Thunderstorms in that area are actually fairly common.
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Reported on SBS news that it's due to bush fires.
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