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10-11-2018, 06:07 PM
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Ultimate Noob
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,982
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Having gone from an EQ6 to a mount with absolute encoders I’d say they’re absolutely amazing
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10-11-2018, 06:35 PM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atmos
Having gone from an EQ6 to a mount with absolute encoders I’d say they’re absolutely amazing
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Well maybe... but raising the mount price to $30K..?....Hmmm?..maybe not
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10-11-2018, 06:43 PM
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ze frogginator
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,062
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atmos
Having gone from an EQ6 to a mount with absolute encoders I’d say they’re absolutely amazing
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I have to ask, what's the fun if you don't have to twist your neck to get your eyeball close enough to the finder through all the USB cables in the way and use averted vision to figure out by how far you've missed?
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10-11-2018, 07:41 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by multiweb
I have to ask, what's the fun if you don't have to twist your neck to get your eyeball close enough to the finder through all the USB cables in the way and use averted vision to figure out by how far you've missed?
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Ah you poor g11 owner no cable issues with AP all thru mount
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10-11-2018, 08:45 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,637
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strongmanmike
I figured these mounts and its predecessors, have given faithful and very accurate service without AE's for a long time, so why did I need them and at the significant extra cost?
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When I read Roland’s explanation of the benefits, I’m sold. I just can’t afford them ATM. For me, the encoders as an “option” future proofs these AP mounts. At least that’s what I tell myself... I’m not sure that you can user/home install encoders in the equivalents (e.g. ME2). A trip back to Colorado perhaps?
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10-11-2018, 09:54 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,452
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Congrats on the choice of mount, Mike. You are going to love it. Enjoy!
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10-11-2018, 10:25 PM
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PI cult member
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Flaxton, Qld
Posts: 2,064
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieberra
When I read Roland’s explanation of the benefits, I’m sold. I just can’t afford them ATM. For me, the encoders as an “option” future proofs these AP mounts. At least that’s what I tell myself... I’m not sure that you can user/home install encoders in the equivalents (e.g. ME2). A trip back to Colorado perhaps?
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From what I have read that is the case.
Congrats on the new mount Mike. When does it actually get into your hands?
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11-11-2018, 08:04 AM
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Galaxy hitchhiking guide
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Shire
Posts: 8,106
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AP make sublime pieces of kit.....the AP 1600 addition to Mike’s system will make it a humble $60k or so ensemble
The dark side is just too powerful
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11-11-2018, 02:51 PM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieberra
When I read Roland’s explanation of the benefits, I’m sold. I just can’t afford them ATM. For me, the encoders as an “option” future proofs these AP mounts. At least that’s what I tell myself... I’m not sure that you can user/home install encoders in the equivalents (e.g. ME2). A trip back to Colorado perhaps?
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Same here Logan, it was a big decision but I decided, along with the desire for some of the new electronic capabilities of the modern non AE mount, the NJP really needed some relief from the mule like expectations I had her under ... and the extra $'s for the AE's was just too far to reach but who knows, as you suggest, some time down the track maybe
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Originally Posted by DJT
Congrats on the choice of mount, Mike. You are going to love it. Enjoy!
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Cheers Dave, hope you're right
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Originally Posted by lazjen
Congrats on the new mount Mike. When does it actually get into your hands?
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Thanks Chris, OPT had 1600's without AE in stock, so hopefully the back ordered items will be in soon so perhaps end of the month or early Dec?
Mike
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12-11-2018, 08:22 AM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: North Queensland
Posts: 3,240
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Congratulations once again Mike.
Is the APCC Pro included with the mount? I think it would be quite useful in a permanent obsy.
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12-11-2018, 12:30 PM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slawomir
Congratulations once again Mike.
Is the APCC Pro included with the mount? I think it would be quite useful in a permanent obsy.
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Cheers Suavi
Not sure about apcc, good question ...better find out
Mike
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12-11-2018, 12:57 PM
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Lee "Wormsy" Borsboom
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Kilcoy, QLD
Posts: 2,058
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I'd recommend getting APCC. I had a pier collision the other night after SGP malfunctioned which would have been prevented had I actually enabled APCC's tracking limits. Not sure if that's included with the pro or standard version though (I have pro).
You get a 30% discount on APCC if you buy it within a short window after your mount purchase... I chose to buy the pro version as I figured I'd get the best out of my mount with it and when you're spending that kind of money on the hardware it didn't make sense to me to cheap out on the software.
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14-11-2018, 09:17 AM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codemonkey
I'd recommend getting APCC. I had a pier collision the other night after SGP malfunctioned which would have been prevented had I actually enabled APCC's tracking limits. Not sure if that's included with the pro or standard version though (I have pro).
You get a 30% discount on APCC if you buy it within a short window after your mount purchase... I chose to buy the pro version as I figured I'd get the best out of my mount with it and when you're spending that kind of money on the hardware it didn't make sense to me to cheap out on the software.
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It's all a bit new and I don't have her yet but, yes Lee I think I will get it...
Mike
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14-11-2018, 12:24 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,193
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I've had APCC some time now just regular version . I think the main difference is the pro allows for multi point modeling as I can do horizon and pier limits with my version.
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14-11-2018, 04:58 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: North Queensland
Posts: 3,240
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From the AP website:
Features of APCC Pro:
-All of the features of APCC Standard.
-Dual-model pointing and tracking rate correction even with the telescope in the counterweight UP position.
-Supports THUM temperature reading sensors.
-Includes a separate application to acquire Pointing/Tracking model data (APPM).
-Camera options: Maxim, Sequence Generator Pro, ASCOM camera and SkyX Image Linking camera Add-on (APPM)
-Plate solving choices: PinPoint, Sequence Generator Pro (tested with PlateSolveX), SkyX Plate Solving Note: these programs must be purchased separately.(APPM)
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15-11-2018, 12:02 AM
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Really just a beginner
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 3,032
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Congrats Mike
The AP 1100 mounts at the school obs have been fantastic.
DT
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15-11-2018, 07:57 AM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,452
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Hi MikeJust on telescope limits, if you chose the handset option you can set safe limits from there without buying software. Same applies for setting horizons. Not sure what you plan to do for telescope control but you will have a couple of options at least.
Time to download the mount manual and if needed the keyboard one. Makes for a good read.
Enjoy
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15-11-2018, 09:09 AM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJT
Hi MikeJust on telescope limits, if you chose the handset option you can set safe limits from there without buying software. Same applies for setting horizons. Not sure what you plan to do for telescope control but you will have a couple of options at least.
Time to download the mount manual and if needed the keyboard one. Makes for a good read.
Enjoy
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Cheers David, yes I got the hand control as I figured that would be able to do most things I needed anyway and then I would connect it to my planetarium/sky map software STAR Atlas pro. or get another program like the The Sky etc..?
Good idea about downloading the manuals
Mike
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15-11-2018, 09:14 AM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strongmanmike
Cheers David, yes I got the hand control as I figured that would be able to do most things I needed anyway and then I would connect it to my planetarium/sky map software STAR Atlas pro. or get another program like the The Sky etc..?
Good idea about downloading the manuals
Mike
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It works very well with THesky X Mike and the camera addon does a good job with closed loop slew / plate solve as well
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15-11-2018, 11:00 AM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marke
It works very well with THesky X Mike and the camera addon does a good job with closed loop slew / plate solve as well
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I'll probably just keep using STAR Atlas.Pro for pointing and Astroart for camera control, at least initially...changing the mount seems scary enough for the moment ...I'll leave changing the software (that I have been using for 12 and 15 years respectively ) for another time...
Mike
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