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16-02-2018, 12:26 PM
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Dark sky rules !
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Android: to root or not to root ?
I branch off this topic: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...d.php?t=164734
becauke I saw there some root their phones.
My current phone (Huawei Mate 9 + Nougat 7.0) is not rooted, as it is now possible to set a firewall and disable bloatware and limit unneeded permissions of apps without being rooted.
In the past, I rooted my phone straight after purchase as Android 4.4 or lower required root to perform these actions.
Did you root your phone and why ?
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16-02-2018, 12:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central Coast NSW
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My phone has root access, and has from day one.
I use it for ad blocking, app and data backups with Titanium, Changing the firmware settings in-system, removing Youtube ads (handy), over-speccing the speaker output levels, those sorts of things.
That's on top of things you mentioned, as well as removing system apps that aren't needed.
And overclocking the CPU, of course...
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16-02-2018, 01:43 PM
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Can someone please explain in laymans terms what this rooting an android means.
The 'rooting an android' that's flashing thru my sordid mind is waaaay different to what you're talking about here, lol
i have an iPhone so I get along without having to worry about this rooting thing, so I have no clue what you're talking about.
Anyone?
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16-02-2018, 01:50 PM
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My sentiments exactly Paul. Have had a few phones that I have had to toss because of this problem they were well and truly!!
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16-02-2018, 01:56 PM
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Look up!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PCH
Can someone please explain in laymans terms what this rooting an android means.
The 'rooting an android' that's flashing thru my sordid mind is waaaay different to what you're talking about here, lol
i have an iPhone so I get along without having to worry about this rooting thing, so I have no clue what you're talking about.
Anyone?
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Put as simply as i can - Android has some functions that are changeable by the user, and some that are not. When you buy a phone there will be apps already installed that you cant delete, and most especially the operating system.
"rooting" gives 'superuser' access allowing you to modify or delete these functions.
You can even load it with a new OS if you find one.
Some Apple devices can be "Jailbroken" for a similar effect.
I used to do it to get rid of Telco bloatware that clogged up the phones' memory with apps i didnt use.
With vastly improved phone specs, that's less of an issue these days
and i like that my Telco thoroughly tests their stock phones for function, performance and security.
If you consider rooting your phone, or changing OS, be very careful as you could "root" your phone.....
rendering it unable to boot. This is called "Bricking" as opposed to "rooting"
If you root your phone and it bricks, your warranty will be void, and then you too will be 'rooted'
clear?
Last edited by sharkbite; 16-02-2018 at 02:00 PM.
Reason: Add humour
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16-02-2018, 02:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkbite
Put as simply as i can - Android has some functions that are changeable by the user, and some that are not. When you buy a phone there will be apps already installed that you cant delete, and most especially the operating system.
"rooting" gives 'superuser' access allowing you to modify or delete these functions.
You can even load it with a new OS if you find one.
Some Apple devices can be "Jailbroken" for a similar effect.
I used to do it to get rid of Telco bloatware that clogged up the phones' memory with apps i didnt use.
With vastly improved phone specs, that's less of an issue these days
and i like that my Telco thoroughly tests their stock phones for function, performance and security.
If you consider rooting your phone, or changing OS, be very careful as you could "root" your phone.....
rendering it unable to boot. This is called "Bricking" as opposed to "rooting"
If you root your phone and it bricks, your warranty will be void, and then you too will be 'rooted'
clear?
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Lol, thanks for the explanation buddy.
I was just curious, - this sounds way more technical than anything my humble brain could ever contemplate.
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20-02-2018, 09:05 AM
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I like biscuits
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Murrumbateman
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Quote:
If you consider rooting your phone, or changing OS, be very careful as you could "root" your phone.....
rendering it unable to boot. This is called "Bricking" as opposed to "rooting"
If you root your phone and it bricks, your warranty will be void, and then you too will be 'rooted'
clear?
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If you root your blackberry you could end up with a frozen brick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKe3PZ_4pvE
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20-02-2018, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PCH
The 'rooting ' that's flashing thru my sordid mind is waaaay different to what you're talking about here, lol
I get along without having to worry about this rooting thing, so I have no clue what you're talking about.
Anyone?
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... classic response Paul ........
Col.....
Last edited by FlashDrive; 21-02-2018 at 11:59 AM.
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20-02-2018, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PCH
The 'rooting an android' that's flashing thru my sordid mind is waaaay different to what you're talking about here, lol
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What's flashing through your mind isn't far from the truth... it's possible that in doing this your Android could be well and truly "stuffed", or "f***ed" as a result. Think about it from the female point of view.
A certain Nats politician in his "autumn years" and a "spring chicken" come to mind, in chinese vernacular. To put it bluntly, he's "rooted" her, she's "stuffed", so is his "ex" and I'll suggest his "goose is cooked" and "now he's made his bed, he has to lie in it". Admittedly he's trying to "make ends meet" which is a "bit of a stretch". Erm... hmm. I'd better stop there.
I suggest you "get it".
Last edited by Wavytone; 20-02-2018 at 09:28 PM.
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20-02-2018, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wavytone
What's flashing through your mind isn't far from the truth... it's possible that in doing this your Android could be well and truly "stuffed", or "f***ed" as a result. Think about it from the female point of view.
A certain Nats politician in his "autumn years" and a "spring chicken" come to mind, in chinese vernacular. To put it bluntly, he's "rooted" her, she's "stuffed", so is his "ex" and I'll suggest his "goose is cooked". Admittedly he's trying to "make ends meet" which is a "bit of a stretch". Erm... hmm. I'd better stop there.
I suggest you "get it".
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What a crack-up, I near fell off my perch..
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21-02-2018, 04:39 AM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Laramie, WY - United States of America
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I assume everyone knows that the origination of "rooting" is to get "root access" to the operating system (super-user or adminstration access).
The default administrator username for all Unix, Linux, Android flavors is "root".
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21-02-2018, 08:46 AM
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Look up!
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OICURMT
I assume everyone knows that the origination of "rooting" is to get "root access" to the operating system (super-user or adminstration access).
The default administrator username for all Unix, Linux, Android flavors is "root".
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Yeah we get that....
Down here in oz "rooting" can mean a number of other things,
hence the cloaked hilarity in the posts.
Explanation of some of these Australian definitions would be
impolite for a family forum such as this one.
See if you can find an expat to explain them to you.
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21-02-2018, 11:32 AM
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Novichok test rabbit
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OICURMT lived here in Oz for decades, so I know he knows - he only recently returned to Trumpistan.
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21-02-2018, 11:42 AM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Laramie, WY - United States of America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LewisM
OICURMT lived here in Oz for decades, so I know he knows - he only recently returned to Trumpistan.
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21-02-2018, 12:10 PM
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Trumpistan
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21-02-2018, 01:34 PM
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Ageing badly.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Cloudy, light-polluted Bribie Is.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkbite
Yeah we get that....
Down here in oz "rooting" can mean a number of other things,
hence the cloaked hilarity in the posts.
Explanation of some of these Australian definitions would be
impolite for a family forum such as this one.
See if you can find an expat to explain them to you.
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Some years ago, my firm was engaged to arrange to register a Patent in Australian for an American gardening product called a Roto-Rooter - a hand-held tiller of some sort. This required - among other things - placing an advert in several national newspapers. That process was not without some er "difficulties" given that the era was the late 60's. I also dined out on that for some little while.
Peter
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