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Old 04-02-2014, 10:19 PM
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Cool Centaurus A 120 hours, Take Two

Hi All,

Having spent much of the past year exploring new image processing tools and refining skills in that area I felt it was time to do a repro of my 120 hour Centaurus A image. I'm still happy with the original version, but... one cannot sit on such a pile of data without making the most of it

Below is a link to the full resolution new version of the image. I think it's a big improvement over the original - it's even hard to see it is the same data!
This time I was able to bring out the concentric shells much more and at the same time give the image a more subtle natural look. One might even say this version respects the light

I started from scratch and did a complete re-registration and combine of the data again, followed by about two weeks of nightly tinkering in PixInsight. The new version also has slightly higher resolution than the old one, despite it looking more relaxed and less 'processed'.

Link to full resolution image (3.5MB)

All details about the image acquisition and what is visible are still the same as in the original thread.

Hope you enjoy this new take on the extreme deep field. All comments and critique welcome as always.

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Old 04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
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The repo is better I think. You can see the "pond wave" effect more betterer.

And jeez, 120 hours....
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:33 PM
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Hmm, its certainly a tamer version. I notice that the background is a little smoother in the new version which I like, but I sort of enjoy the mottled look of the old one. One thing I think would be great for the new version is some work on the red layer to reduce the star halos. They are present on brighter stars in both the blue and red layers but for some reason I think the red ones annoy me the most.


Still a great image no matter how you present it Rolf!
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:31 PM
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Cool stuff Rolf, the shells are more obvious now and it looks softer but whether it is a better version...I dunno, it's different sure but better..? One thing that is for sure though is it's certainly a fabulous image of (about half of ) Centaurus A ...This is still the Full Monty ...hmmm?..have you tried blending the two..?

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Old 04-02-2014, 11:41 PM
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I like both. I like the more muted galaxy of the new but prefer the stars in the original.

I think overall I prefer the original as its more in your face and shows the massive extent of this super galaxy.

You've done a great job on both. Its weird in a way they can be presented so well so differently.

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Old 05-02-2014, 03:59 AM
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:12 AM
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Great repro, Rolf! Like many other posters I like aspects of both versions.

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Old 05-02-2014, 06:30 AM
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Both great versions Rolf. With so much data you probably can't display all aspects of it with just one processing version.
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:34 AM
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Awesome stuff Rolf. Are you going to shoot that one with the new scope as well?
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:28 AM
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Exceptionally nice Rolf! I think this treatment of the data is definitely better.

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Cool stuff Rolf, the shells are more obvious now and it looks softer but whether it is a better version...I dunno, it's different sure but better..? One thing that is for sure though is it's certainly a fabulous image of (about half of ) Centaurus A ...This is still the Full Monty ...hmmm?..have you tried blending the two..?

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I agree that a blend between the two would be interesting & maybe better.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:10 PM
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I like the original better, although the new version is still good.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:45 PM
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I love both renditions. So much flexibility in interpretation when you have so much accrued data to play with. Still a benchmark image to aspire to.

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Both nice versions Rolf; I think the processing of the dust lanes is better in the new version and some of the background galaxies stand out better
but the original shows some fainter stars and detail ... so both have something to offer
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Thanks for your comments everyone. Maybe I need to make a 3rd version . Personally I favour the new version as I think it has a less processed look, while still showing all the details of the original. But yeah, you need to know they are there before you'll see them, that's probably the difference.
There are some coloured halos around the brighter stars in the new version and this is because I used the RGB from the original version as the colour layer in the new. Since I significantly reduced the star halos in luminance they no longer fit exactly with the old RGB (although I did tweak the RGB a bit).
Maybe I need to start from scratch with the RGB data as well - oh well, I've done some 100 hours of processing on this data now, and still counting...

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Awesome stuff Rolf. Are you going to shoot that one with the new scope as well?
Hi Marc, I think I'll pass for now, I have a list of other targets I would like to try. After all there isn't really much more to show on this galaxy I think. But maybe in the future, when the Cen A fever hits me again
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Old 16-03-2014, 08:19 AM
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Stunning before and still stunning Rolf...I couldn't choose which version I like best.
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Lovely. Not so overblown as the original. But both are extraordinary images.
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Old 16-03-2014, 04:26 PM
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Just kidding. Very nicely done.

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