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24-07-2008, 08:43 PM
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What's wrong with the spelling? I was quite fond of today's exploration of the soloar system.  |
The sun has oars??? Where's it rowing to???
that's good news about the PODcast  .
Al.
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24-07-2008, 09:43 PM
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What's wrong with the spelling? I was quite fond of today's exploration of the soloar system. |
He he, congratulations mate!
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25-07-2008, 01:45 AM
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The beginning of this podcast starts with 'This is the last episode'. 
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25-07-2008, 11:53 AM
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The beginning of this podcast starts with 'This is the last episode'. |
Oh.... 
I haven't downloaded it yet (I'm waiting till tomorrow to start a new month's download allocation).
Al.
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25-07-2008, 03:39 PM
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New StarStuff podcast
I think you may still be getting your feed from the NewsRadio site DistroMan.
The new podcast is available from the ABC Radio Science site NOT NewsRadio:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/podcast/starstuff.xml
it has yesterday's date in the filename: starstuff20080724.mp3
And begins:
"Coming up on StarStuff...at ABC Science Online .....We're pleased to say that rumours of our death have been somewhat exagerated, at least for now, thanks to ABC Science Online for allowing us to use their platform as the new home for StarStuff..."
It is to be hoped NewsRadio will link to the new site on their StarStuff page, otherwise whose to know the show is back?
Also it is to be hoped the podcast will be given due support at the ABC Radio Science so people know it's available. Obviously there isn't the presence on radio schedules and voice on air that a broadcast show has.
I do feel that the "at least for now" shows the situation still bears watching.
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25-07-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HumanaScope
Hi all,
I've been involved in the ABC Communities thread about this atrocity and the conclusion has come down to trying to shame the three ABC radio execs that have it in for StarStuff (and LUV footy it seems instead) by getting Letters to the Editor published in the major dailies.
Has anyone got anything published yet?
I've just fired off about five. Heaven knows what will result.
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Atrocity? So what's Hitler then, a horseman of the apocalypse? I mean really!
Let's face it. Star Stuff was a good program, but it's over. Yes, i used to wait for it to come on at night, but, really there are better things to do with one's time than listening to someone salivating over rings on Saturn and dribbling over the lesser known phenomena of distant quasars which no one gives two straws about. And besides, what's the point? Life goes on.
Who do you think has more fans? Star stuff, or big brother? And look what they've done with that. Do you really think some goverment beurocrats give a damn about the opinion of 15 amateur astronomers? You're all wasting your time. Who are you to say that your unnecessary expenditure of energy, and congruous production of entropy isn't litering the universe with mysterious dark matter, thus further obliterating our view of God's creation? Who do you think you are, and what are your credentials to deny this?
Face up to it. Star stuff is over, gone, dead and buried. It's finito, caput, extinct, no longer extant. It lies entombed now, in a shallow grave, whilst the ABC spit on it's corpse, and those few morners who did bother to turn up to it's funeral sadly refuse to accept the inevitability of the situation.
I could end this rant by saying `This is just my 2c', thus mitigating responsibility and ruining the effect, but I won't since I mean what i say. No-one really listens to it, so let it die a natural death. Nothing dies which is not moribund with the agents of death.
Thanks.
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25-07-2008, 06:21 PM
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Atrocity? So what's Hitler then, a horseman of the apocalypse? I mean really! |
Try getting over yourself. That's a sure way to loosen the strings. Good for longevity too.
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Let's face it. Star Stuff was a good program, but it's over.
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Not it isn't over. Praps you should read a thread before commenting.
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Originally Posted by overlord
Yes, i used to wait for it to come on at night, but, really there are better things to do with one's time than listening to someone salivating over rings on Saturn and dribbling over the lesser known phenomena of distant quasars which no one gives two straws about. And besides, what's the point? Life goes on.
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What's the point of writing a book whinging about the way other people spend their time? Why are you so offended by the way I choose to spend my time?
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Originally Posted by overlord
Who do you think has more fans? Star stuff, or big brother? And look what they've done with that. Do you really think some goverment beurocrats give a damn about the opinion of 15 amateur astronomers? You're all wasting your time. Who are you to say that your unnecessary expenditure of energy, and congruous production of entropy isn't litering the universe with mysterious dark matter, thus further obliterating our view of God's creation? Who do you think you are, and what are your credentials to deny this?
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Right... so it's just another self righteous religious troll. I'll celebrate the flying spaghetti monster's creation any way I damn well choose thank you very much!
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Face up to it. Star stuff is over, gone, dead and buried. It's finito, caput, extinct, no longer extant.
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Again, no it isn't. Try reading a thread before commenting.
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Originally Posted by overlord
It lies entombed now, in a shallow grave, whilst the ABC spit on it's corpse, and those few morners who did bother to turn up to it's funeral sadly refuse to accept the inevitability of the situation.
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Snore...
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Originally Posted by overlord
I could end this rant by saying `This is just my 2c', thus mitigating responsibility and ruining the effect, but I won't since I mean what i say. No-one really listens to it, so let it die a natural death. Nothing dies which is not moribund with the agents of death.
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Wow that's a hell of a lot of effort you've just gone to try to disuade people from signing a petition and sending a few letters. I can't even begin to fathom your motives. Usually if someone doesn't care enough to bother with something they also don't care enough to write 277 words telling everyone else not to bother. Strange person.
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25-07-2008, 07:04 PM
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Well, you see, my Irish friend, I am part of a gigantic earth shattering `conspiracy' to deny you and you alone the capability of partaking in the practice of your favourite hobby.
I can see what an earnest and precocious intellect you are to have wondered at discerning my `motives'. You must be very proud of yourself for unmasking my nefarious hidden agenda to deny you access your hobby. 
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25-07-2008, 07:11 PM
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25-07-2008, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by overlord
Well, you see, my Irish friend, I am part of a gigantic earth shattering `conspiracy' to deny you and you alone the capability of partaking in the practice of your favourite hobby.
I can see what an earnest and precocious intellect you are to have wondered at discerning my `motives'. You must be very proud of yourself for unmasking my nefarious hidden agenda to deny you access your hobby. |
Honestly, why bother trying to start an argument in this thread?
This thread is obviously for people that do care about it. If you're not one of them, that's your opinion and your right. So perhaps you don't need to reply to this thread at all?
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25-07-2008, 10:22 PM
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Something I said?
Looks like a smokescreen to me.
Well I'll say it again. FYI to any interested parties:
The first of the new StarStuff podcasts is available from the ABC Radio Science site NOT NewsRadio:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/podcast/starstuff.xml
it has yesterday's date in the filename: starstuff20080724.mp3
And begins:
"Coming up on StarStuff...at ABC Science Online .....We're pleased to say that rumours of our death have been somewhat exagerated, at least for now, thanks to ABC Science Online for allowing us to use their platform as the new home for StarStuff..."
It is to be hoped NewsRadio will link to the new site on their StarStuff page, otherwise who's to know the show is back?
Also it is to be hoped the podcast will be given due support at the ABC Radio Science so people know it's available. Obviously there isn't the presence on radio schedules and voice on air that a broadcast show has.
I do feel that the "at least for now" shows the situation still bears watching.
Last edited by HumanaScope; 25-07-2008 at 11:04 PM.
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26-07-2008, 10:23 AM
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Possible analysis piece in next Monday's SMH Guide?
There is a report in another forum that the Sydney Morning Herald’s radio editor Sue Javes may run a story in next Monday’s Guide on the matter.
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28-07-2008, 06:09 PM
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There is a report in another forum that the Sydney Morning Herald’s radio editor Sue Javes may run a story in next Monday’s Guide on the matter.
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It seems that Sue Javes did write a report on Star Stuff's axing in today's paper. I can't see any trace of it in the SMH but the article is in the Australian Financial Review...
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Originally Posted by Sue Javes in AFR
SHOT INTO CYBER SPACE<p></p>The ABC has been bombarded with complaints following a decision by NewsRadio to scrap the long-running astronomy show StarStuff.
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http://afr.com/home/viewer.aspx?ATL:...38&title=Radio
Although you have to subscribe to see the whole thing.
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28-07-2008, 08:15 PM
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Full article
SHOT INTO CYBER SPACE
The ABC has been bombarded with complaints following a decision by NewsRadio to scrap the long-running astronomy show StarStuff. Blogs have sprung up urging disappointed listeners to contact their member of Parliament in a bid to have the "uneducated and ill-informed" decision overturned. ABC radio talks boss Margaret Cassidy says it's a matter of prioritising resources. She says StarStuff presenter Stuart Gary is needed to work on the main news desk five days a week and the specialist program does not fit with the station's rolling news format. the bloggers argue that NewsRadio has no trouble running block programming when it comes to sport yet can't devote half an hour a week to scientific endeavour. A compromise of sorts has been reached. The show will be offered as a podcast by ABC Science Online at abc.net.au/science/feeds.
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29-07-2008, 04:59 PM
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so far so good. We have 71 signatures but we need more. A lot more. If anyone can think of anywhere to post this link that it hasn't been posted already please do. We need as many signatures as we can get to prove to all the potential stakeholders (including Radio National) how popular this show is.
http://gopetition.com.au/petitions/s...gram/sign.html
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29-07-2008, 11:41 PM
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Obviously if no-one cared we wouldnt even have a podcast, so who knows, if enough people sign the petition it may be enough to raise the awareness of a few pollies and we may get lucky ... 
Paul
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30-07-2008, 02:32 AM
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I've just emailed Australian Skeptics to see if there is any help they can offer. We have 83 signatures but we really need a lot more than that. We need access to a lot more potential signers than we have available to us in the few forums in which we have presented the petition.
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30-07-2008, 06:29 PM
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I've just emailed Australian Skeptics to see if there is any help they can offer. We have 83 signatures but we really need a lot more than that. We need access to a lot more potential signers than we have available to us in the few forums in which we have presented the petition.
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Barry Williams from Australian Skeptics came back to me with the following...
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Considering the ABC has seemingly dozens of networks it's strange they should take off a popular show to put on yet more football.
I'll pass the message on to our members and try to rouse a bit of a groundswell.
Barry Williams
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This should give us quite a boost
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31-07-2008, 12:08 AM
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This was News Radio's science and technology coverate in the summer of year 2000...
Schedule current February 2000.
All times Eastern Standard Time.
(SA/NT minus 30 mins,WA minus 2 hrs).
Times approximate and subject to change due to special news/sport coverage.
Weekdays
0505 StarStuff Early Edition- Astronomy/Space Science (Mon only) (25 mins)
0530 NetNews - Internet and Computers (Mon only) (25 mins)
0650 Computer and Technology News Update (3 mins)
0750 Computer and Technology News Update (3 mins)
0850 Computer and Technology News Update (3 mins)
0950 Computer and Technology News Update (3 mins)
1205 NetNews - Internet and Computers (Mon only) (25 mins)
1230 StarStuff Astronomer's Edition- Astronomy/Space Science (Mon only) (25 mins)
1525 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2025 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
Saturday
1735 Saturday Night Science Preview (5 mins)
1905 StarStuff Early Edition- Astronomy/Space Science (25 mins)
2040 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2045 Radio Netherlands, The Research File Pt 1 (20 mins)
2105 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2110 Radio Netherlands, The Research File Pt 2 (10 mins)
2125 Bernie's Big Fat Science (5 mins)
2135 BBC Science in Action (25 mins)
2205 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2210 The Science Report (20 mins)
2215 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2220 The Science Report (20 mins)
2225 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2235 StarStuff - Astronomy and Space Sciences (25 mins)
Sunday
1205 NetNews - Internet and Computers (25 mins)
1335 StarStuff Preview (5 mins)
1840 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
1910 StarStuff Early Edition Part 1
1940 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2015 StarStuff Early Edition Part 2
2040 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2115 StarStuff Early Edition Part 3
2140 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2215 Science and Technology News Update (5 mins)
2235 StarStuff Astronomer's Edition - Astronomy and Space Sciences (20 mins)
This is the current schedule...
http://www.abc.net.au/newsradio/schedule/
The word 'science' doesn't appear in it at all.
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