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Old 13-05-2019, 08:58 PM
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CO2 Levels in atmo set new record

Here is a cheery bit of news from the Mauna Loa Observatory:

https://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-of...-human-history

It is a worthwhile read.

Humans will destroy this biosphere.
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Old 13-05-2019, 09:22 PM
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Listen, NOTHING will be done, you know it I know it, no matter how much bad news there is nothing will be done, people will be looking back on this 20 years from now when it is too late
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Old 13-05-2019, 09:23 PM
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People are starting to wake up to the corporate con so things should eventually turn around, hopefully before the runaway event.
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Old 13-05-2019, 10:49 PM
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Too late. That curve shows the rate of change is accelerating, and it looks exponential, so its going to get much worse - and faster than it has in recent decades - even if we stopped burning all fossil-fuels tomorrow.

Time to move south.
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Old 14-05-2019, 01:00 AM
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Time to move south.
Yes. But where? Perhaps we could bunk down at the base the Chinese are building in Australia's Antarctic Territory!

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Old 14-05-2019, 01:49 AM
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If you are about 60 years old, then in 1958, CO2 levels were measured at about 315ppm.

Today, they are 415ppm.

Video of how CO2 levels are measured :-
https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/ke...8/04/12/video/
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Old 14-05-2019, 03:01 AM
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People always complain about the wrong thing

In 1958 there were 2,871,952,278
NOW 7,714,576,923

That is an increase of 4,842,624,645

The planet can not sustain the rise in population. FOOD alone

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day.
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Old 14-05-2019, 11:08 AM
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People always complain about the wrong thing

In 1958 there were 2,871,952,278
NOW 7,714,576,923

That is an increase of 4,842,624,645

The planet can not sustain the rise in population. FOOD alone

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day.
Exactly. Honestly people are kinda stupid and you've hit the ball on the head with this one. I do wonder about the forum's opinion on climate change. People seem unable to sepparate 'record co2 levels' with 'were all gonna die! argh!'. 1) there is plenty of evidence for the former but they use this as 'evidence' for the latter, and there is none.
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Old 14-05-2019, 11:23 AM
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I remind everyone that this should be a discussion free of politics, and misrepresentation. The data presented in the opening post is fact. Most of those people alive in 1958 are likely long gone and had no way of knowing what was brewing for their descendents. At some point it has to be taken seriously. We can't just all breath less.
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Old 14-05-2019, 11:36 AM
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Most of those people alive in 1958 are likely long gone .
Now lets see .... Yep, I was alive in 1958 .... WOW ...I'm still here

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Old 14-05-2019, 11:58 AM
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I was alive in 1938 and I'm also still here.
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Old 14-05-2019, 12:10 PM
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Thanks Gary,
informative science news.

I deeply apologise for all the breathing I have been doing since birth.
But I have planted a lot of trees.



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If you are about 60 years old, then in 1958, CO2 levels were measured at about 315ppm.

Today, they are 415ppm.

Video of how CO2 levels are measured :-
https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/ke...8/04/12/video/
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Old 14-05-2019, 12:31 PM
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But I have planted a lot of trees.
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All this tree planting is probably already offset but all Lewis's Cassoulet consumption.
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Old 14-05-2019, 12:51 PM
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While they allow tractor pulling (five supercharged motors employed to drag an ever increasing load down a course) and places like Las Vegas use greedy ammounts of power to add to light polution..and the various racing etc...I cant see the point in wringing our hands as while that mentality exists there really is no hope. Humans just need to be a little less hypocritical for a start.
And I dont see a solution coming via a tax or NP.
And this fixation upon carbon seems to ignore the other green house gas...mmm like methane or just simple water vapour.
It seems a bit like a chicken little story in so many respects.
Heck if the problem is so bad why is nothing being done other than push energy alternatives.
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Old 14-05-2019, 02:08 PM
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Mmmmm. Cassoulet.

Must be better for the atmosphere than the Kashmiri dish at our local subcontinental restaurant.

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Old 14-05-2019, 02:13 PM
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People always complain about the wrong thing

In 1958 there were 2,871,952,278
NOW 7,714,576,923

That is an increase of 4,842,624,645

The planet can not sustain the rise in population. FOOD alone

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day.
I vote we go to war to fix up climate change and wipe out half of the worlds population, I'm sure the Greenies will agree.
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Old 14-05-2019, 03:33 PM
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Democracies are totally unable to do what what must be done for the benefit of all when the available options are unpalatable to some, and there’s is no option acceptable to all.

IMHO ultimately climate change will be solved by famines, disease or wars - not democracies.

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Old 14-05-2019, 04:46 PM
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All this tree planting is probably already offset but all Lewis's Cassoulet consumption.
C'est pas vrai! La cuisine française a le goût de la morve imprégnée d'ail

My nocturnal bovine-style methane emissions are recirculated within the household for all to enjoy before being burnt in the fires of Mordor.

I swear.
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