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Old 14-01-2019, 08:38 PM
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Meade Help Required

I have A 14" Meade ACF LX200 OTA with some series focusing problems.

I had focusing issues for some time. I did the full wind out and wind in thing multiple times with the focuser, to spread out the lubricant.

Now I cannot achieve anything close to focus. I can see a large out of focus star, but turning the focus knob now seems to make no difference. I have turned the focuser from all in to all out.

I can feel tension and weight when I turn the focuser.

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Old 14-01-2019, 09:05 PM
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Hmmmmm....
That's not normal.
Check the position of the mirror on the baffle, look into the tube from the front, and then move the focuser knob to the max either way - see if the mirror actually moved up and down the baffle.
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Old 14-01-2019, 09:15 PM
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Sorry for asking but is the mirror lock fully disengaged ? The old Meade Mapug pages might offer some ideas, predates the ACF range but the mechanics would roughly be the same ......

http://www.skymtn.com/mapug-astronom...G/ImgShift.htm
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Old 14-01-2019, 10:14 PM
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Sorry for asking but is the mirror lock fully disengaged ? The old Meade Mapug pages might offer some ideas, predates the ACF range but the mechanics would roughly be the same ......

http://www.skymtn.com/mapug-astronom...G/ImgShift.htm
I agree my ED Celestron has mirror lock, has it been focused without dis engaging the locks at any time
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Old 20-01-2019, 09:04 PM
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Sorry for asking but is the mirror lock fully disengaged ? The old Meade Mapug pages might offer some ideas, predates the ACF range but the mechanics would roughly be the same ......

http://www.skymtn.com/mapug-astronom...G/ImgShift.htm

The mirror lock is fully disengaged.
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Old 20-01-2019, 09:22 PM
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Hmmmmm....
That's not normal.
Check the position of the mirror on the baffle, look into the tube from the front, and then move the focuser knob to the max either way - see if the mirror actually moved up and down the baffle.

I could not see the mirror moving by looking down the tube from the front.
However, looking up tube, I can see the image on the secondary changing.
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Old 20-01-2019, 10:03 PM
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More information.

When looking up the tube from the back with nothing in the visual back I can see a image in the secondary.

Image1 shows what I can see when the focuser has been fully turned anti-clockwise.
Image2 what is visible when the focuser is fully turned clockwise.

The tube is horizontal.

Image2 clear shows a problem.

Is the problem with the focuser, mirror tilt, collimation?

Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks

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Old 20-01-2019, 10:11 PM
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http://starlightinstruments.com/stor...croFocuser.pdf

Above is a a link to the feathertouch microfocuser installation for the Meade 14” , if your up to it maybe following the instructions to remove the original focuser knob might help diagnose a problem.
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Old 21-01-2019, 12:01 AM
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It's possible that the main mirror has come loose from the tube on which it is mounted.
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Old 21-01-2019, 12:57 AM
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If you don't see the main mirror move when focusing, it could be the focuser rod has dislodged from the locating pin on the rear of the mirror.
I never experienced that in almost twenty years of SCT use, but anything is possible.
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Old 21-01-2019, 02:08 AM
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Or at some stage it has been focussed with the clamps "clamped" causing a problem
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Old 21-01-2019, 10:03 AM
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My experience is with the Classic Lx200...
Found a couple of links which may be of interest...
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/3...0-mirror-lock/

https://astromart.com/reviews/telesc...e-lx200-14-sct

Hope you resolve the issue.
[Edit] I'm not suggesting at this stage you need to completely strip the Meade....just some ideas as to how the focuser works and may be rectified if needed.

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Old 21-01-2019, 09:49 PM
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If you don't see the main mirror move when focusing, it could be the focuser rod has dislodged from the locating pin on the rear of the mirror.
I never experienced that in almost twenty years of SCT use, but anything is possible.
How much movement should I see? There is some movement as shown in the images in the post above. I couldn't tell if the movement was in /out or if the focuser is only pushing on one side of the mirror.

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Or at some stage it has been focussed with the clamps "clamped" causing a problem
Not they I can remember. The scope is only used for imaging and I use a Meade zero shift focuser.

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Old 21-01-2019, 09:52 PM
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Just in case, does anyone know someone who can service Meades (ideally in Brisbane) ?

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Old 22-01-2019, 07:15 AM
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Brendan,
The movement of the mirror along the baffle tube should be enough to be noticed...about 40mm??
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Old 22-01-2019, 09:28 AM
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Hi Brendan,

I stripped mine down completely for a clean and re-grease last year and they are remarkably simple inside. I'll see if I can dig out some photos later on to help.
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Old 23-01-2019, 02:43 PM
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Old 23-01-2019, 03:27 PM
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Here is a video I found of removing a Meade focuser to replace with a Peterson. I guess the innards are the same for the 14inch. Kind of shows whats inside if that helps. https://www.google.com.au/search?sou...arch&kpvalbx=1


This may also be of use as it relates to a 14inch
http://www.centaurus-a.nl/home/meade...chanism-repair
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Old 26-01-2019, 08:19 PM
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When I remove the focuser, which is the best / safest / easiest way. Can I remove the focuser while the scope is still on the mount, (keeping the tube horizontal) or do I need to dismount the tube from the mount?

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Old 26-01-2019, 09:12 PM
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Brendan,
As long as the tube is horizontal or slightly inclined upwards there's little chance of the mirror sliding on the baffle.
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