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Old 15-12-2010, 12:53 PM
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Ops report 14/12/10

It's been so long since i have been able to get the scope out let alone get a clear night for a decent amount of time at the eyepiece however last night it cleared to a very nice night. I went out about 11pm and came back in about 2.30am this morning. Through most of the time i was out i couldn't see any stars twinkling overhead, just a couple towards the horizon. The milky way was bright, clear and full of detail. The seeing conditions were terrific!

1) I went straight to the Orion nebula there it was full of green and blue colour particularly around the trapezium. I went to my 12mm eyepiece and there as clear as day were all the stars including stars E and F. They were bright, clear and crisp. I went to the TMB 9mm which was great and then tried the 6mm (200x) but started to lose a bit of detail. I put my GSO OIII filter into the 20mm and there was so much detail.

2) I then went in search of the Horsehead. I found the flame nebula very easily and it was quite bright, very visible with dark lanes throughout. I tried my 30mm and 20mm GSO superview, 12mm and the OIII filter but i found the best was a cheap 25mm plossl without the filter. By placing the near bright star, i think it's called Alnitak, just outside the field of view made viewing easier as it was washing out some of the nebula. I tried searching for the Horsehead but a combination of not really knowing where to look and lack of a H-beta filter (i think that's the right one?) meant i didn't get it. This morning looking at Stellarium made me say "oh that's where it is again... doh"

3) Observed a few clusters like NGC 2516, 2632 with the naked eye. They were quite bright so i turned the scope and had a closer look. I need to get myself a set of decent binoculars

4) Went over to the SMC and had a look at Tuc 47 and few other fuzzies. It was getting low in the sky and trees were blocking my view.

5) Had a look at the LMC and the Tarantula nebula was a stand out. So luminous and clear. There were dark lanes everywhere! I popped in the OIII filter and there was so much detail to take in! I had a scan around the LMC and there were too many fuzzies and dust clouds to count! I need to learn this part of the sky!

6) Had a good scan around the area north of the southern cross and came across a few clusters such as NGC 3766. Some of these were full of red, blue, white stars. Very clear and not a hint of disturbance/twinkle.

7) I then looked further up with just my eyes and above the crux and the above mentioned star clusters i could see more bright hazy/fuzzy milky way. Pointed the scope there and to my surprise is was filled with some sort of nebula. I assume it was NGC 3293 & 3324 but i can't be sure as there was so much nebulosity and dark lanes it took a while to take it all in and Stellarium doesn't show this . I put the OIII filter on my 20mm and just took it all in. This was really quite a surprise, i have not been able to identify which nebula it is with stellarium and i am quite blown away by how clear the dark lanes were. It rivalled the Tarantula neb that's for sure!

8) While in the area i saw a very very faint sattellite pass by. I was able to track it with the scope but it kept disappearing and faintly reappearing. It looked like it was going in and out of the dark lanes in the nebulosity. Maybe it wasn't a satellite and was the Enterprise at warp speed?

9) And in the 3 hours i was out there i only counted about 35 meteors but my eye was at the eyepiece most of the time. I saw 2 or 3 meteors which stood out. One directly to the east which was very bright, low to the horizon and was almost horizontal. You could see individual flames on it! It darted about 2/3 across the sky. Another towards the north west darted across the sky and left a trail of smoke behind it!

All in all a great night with some very clear skies. I was too tired to go any longer and a very very light coating of dew was starting to appear.

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Old 15-12-2010, 01:26 PM
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Sounds a great night Sam. It is certainly easy to get absorbed in the Tarantula. I wonder if the nebula you were looking at in Carina was the Eta Carinae nebula NGC 3372 - would certainly be the one to rival the Tarantula.
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Old 15-12-2010, 01:42 PM
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Sounds like you had a great night.

Reading all these obs reports is making me feel so annoyed at these clouds .I miss the stars,A lot!

Cheers Orestis
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Old 15-12-2010, 03:46 PM
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Hi Sam,

Excellent report brimming with the joys of discovery!

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2) I then went in search of the Horsehead. I found the flame nebula very easily and it was quite bright, very visible with dark lanes throughout. I tried my 30mm and 20mm GSO superview, 12mm and the OIII filter but i found the best was a cheap 25mm plossl without the filter. By placing the near bright star, i think it's called Alnitak, just outside the field of view made viewing easier as it was washing out some of the nebula. I tried searching for the Horsehead but a combination of not really knowing where to look and lack of a H-beta filter (i think that's the right one?) meant i didn't get it. This morning looking at Stellarium made me say "oh that's where it is again... doh"
Don't feel bad at all about that Sam. The Horsehead Nebula (IC 434 & B33) is a very difficult target. Keep trying but it will probably take a bigger 'scope and you to have more experience as an observer. When ever you attempt it, make sure you identify the Flame Nebula (NGC 2024) first. There is a bit of a guide to observing the Horsehead in the January 2009 edition of Australian Sky & Telescope you might find useful. A H-Beta filter is very, very helpful in apertures of 30cm and over and if you don't have one a UHC filter is next best. OIII filter will kill it stone-dead. There is no (well, almost none) doubly ionised Oxygen present in the emission spectrum.

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6) Had a good scan around the area north of the southern cross and came across a few clusters such as NGC 3766. Some of these were full of red, blue, white stars. Very clear and not a hint of disturbance/twinkle.
NGC 3766 is a superb and often overlooked cluster and has several red (giant/supergiant) stars in it. One of the most colourful clusters in the sky. NGC 3293 is also very colourful. The latter is my favourite O.C of all (do I hear cries of "heretic ??")

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7) I then looked further up with just my eyes and above the crux and the above mentioned star clusters i could see more bright hazy/fuzzy milky way. Pointed the scope there and to my surprise is was filled with some sort of nebula. I assume it was NGC 3293 & 3324 but i can't be sure as there was so much nebulosity and dark lanes it took a while to take it all in and Stellarium doesn't show this . I put the OIII filter on my 20mm and just took it all in. This was really quite a surprise, i have not been able to identify which nebula it is with stellarium and i am quite blown away by how clear the dark lanes were. It rivalled the Tarantula neb that's for sure!
"Some sort of nebula" ??? Sam, you have undoubtedly discovered the vast and intricate Eta Carinae complex -- a major site of massive star formation and host to some of the most gigantic heavyweight stars in the Milky Way Galaxy including Eta itself and of course one of my other favouritest stars HD 93129AB -- yowser! I'll let you do your own research on this "Some sort of Nebula" -- NGC 3372. Make sure you have a good read and look at the pictures and then go back out and re-observe it with "knowledgable-eyes" and you'll come to appreciate it even more. One of the very best objects in the sky. I think the best cluster/nebula in moderate (8-12") 'scopes. Once you get to about 16", the Tarantula Nebula (NGC 2070) surpasses it.


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Les D
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Old 16-12-2010, 12:44 AM
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Thanks for the reply Les. I've only had the scope for less than 6 months so i'm learning at a fast rate!

I've got dark skies so i'll keep at the horsehead. I might get a uhc or h-beta filter in the new year. Otherwise i'll have to wait until i get a bigger scope in a few years

I'll be doing some research on Eta Carina this week and HD 93129AB which you mentioned.

many thanks!

Sam
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