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Got mine today. Lots of information. Looking forward to getting stuck into it. However, I notice the pictures in mine are not simply black and white, but also have a distracting scanline appearance. I'm trying to find out if it's just my copy that has this issue. If anyone else is experiencing this, please let me know.

The ePub version goes up tomorrow, so maybe a comparison between the electronic version and the print copy will shed some light. It will be available here

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Received mine this morning and the photographs have the same fault, best described as a weave in fabric, would have to say that the images are very poor but the information contained in the book is fascinating. I won't be sending it back.
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Mine has not arrived yet but it is disappointing to hear that it's not just a once off. I wonder how such a flaw could be overlooked. The beauty of the book may be in the text itself but it's a shame that the images in this print have come off second best.
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Sound like some similar issues I've seen with the "print on demand" books. Probably caused by the rescanning of the illustrations.....
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Sound like some similar issues I've seen with the "print on demand" books. Probably caused by the rescanning of the illustrations.....
Yeah, I think this is precisely the case. I had a closer look at the text over lunch and it doesn't appear as "crisp" as you'd expect from an off the shelf book.
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:06 AM
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Got the ePUB but had trouble (and wait for the download link) downloading to my IPad , finally got it to work when I used the Chrome browser . Shame about the pics in the hard copies .
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Sound like some similar issues I've seen with the "print on demand" books. Probably caused by the rescanning of the illustrations.....
Like a moire pattern? That could make sense as the parts that are effected would have used the halftone printing method.

Sad to see the issue seems to be more widely spread, but then, you buy this book for the information, not the pictures so much.
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Old 10-09-2016, 02:34 PM
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pictures in the ePUB are also black and white

discounted to $26.99

no trouble downloading

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I still have my 1995 2nd addition with it's beautiful coloured pictures
plastic rapped cover and signed by David Malin for sale at or near $1000:00
If anyone is interested?
No grainy black and white pictures.
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Geoff,
I assume the illustrations in the eBook are OK?????
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Yep, me to Ron.
But I will not sell mine. My wife bought it for my birthday back in 1995, so it has a greater value to me.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:33 PM
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Hi Geoff,

Are they all black and white (excluding the cover illustrations)? Do the exhibit the moire screen door effect?.

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Hello My 2 copies turned up today 12/9/2016.GOT A 10% DISCOUNT and delivered freight free. 2 copies $99.00 all up .
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Correct me if I'm wrong, just flicked through my 1995 copy that I purchased on here earlier in the year.

The only colour photos are the set that's sandwiched between pages 147 and 151?

Can someone post an example of the issue you are seeing in the B&W photos shown with the object descriptions?
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Old 13-09-2016, 04:53 PM
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Certainly a distraction but still can set the reader's expectation of what can be seen.
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Received mine yesterday. Same issue unfortunately.

I also noticed the chapter numbers have a similar 'scanline' appearance about them but may well be how it is supposed to be. Can anyone with an older copy confirm if the large chapter numbers are meant to be that way? Thanks.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, just flicked through my 1995 copy that I purchased on here earlier in the year.

The only colour photos are the set that's sandwiched between pages 147 and 151?

Can someone post an example of the issue you are seeing in the B&W photos shown with the object descriptions?
You are right about the colour pictures in the block on the pages you mentioned.
All the other pics with the description are in black and white.
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Old 13-09-2016, 05:21 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, just flicked through my 1995 copy that I purchased on here earlier in the year.

The only colour photos are the set that's sandwiched between pages 147 and 151?
Yes, you are correct. in the 1995 version, the middle section is in colour, while the other images (the ones interspersed between the text) are black and white.

The 2016 paperback reprint of the second edition has black and white images throughout, and also has the issue mentioned below to a greater or lesser degree on probably 90% of the images within.

This ePub version does faithfully present the colour pages from the centre section, same as in the original 1995 version. The strange lines do not seem to be evident in the ePub version.

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ePub version has colour pictures in middle section

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