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Old 29-05-2018, 03:18 PM
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I've heard about the ' Cloud ' , you can upload to it .... but ( excuse my ignorance ) ... where is this ' Cloud ' .

I have never uploaded to it for privacy reason ...I have all my data backed up on a 2TB Hard Drive .. at least I know where it is, and I have control over it.

it's ' out there ' ... where ever that is.

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Old 29-05-2018, 03:34 PM
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I've heard about the ' Cloud ' , you can upload to it .... but ( excuse my ignorance ) ... where is this ' Cloud ' .
It's distributed - Maybe under some mountain in Nevada USA or one in Switzerland. Some place / Many places that are "safe"

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I have never uploaded to it for privacy reason
Good idea Col ! Keep it that way.

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it's ' out there ' ... where ever that is.

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Yes the modern day ether.

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Old 29-05-2018, 04:13 PM
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I'm with you Col, bugger the cloud, what if it was a clear blue sky, now where would your stuff be.

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Old 29-05-2018, 04:39 PM
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what if it was a clear blue sky, now where would your stuff be
Probably on a server in China/US/India :-)
The "cloud" is just advertising hype to delude you into a false sense of security, ie "your data is safe with US", but we're not going to tell you who we are :-) .

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....I found it
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Love it Col.

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....I found it
Absolutely bloody brilliant.
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Probably on a server in China/US/India :-)
The "cloud" is just advertising hype to delude you into a false sense of security, ie "your data is safe with US", but we're not going to tell you who we are :-) .

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Awesome comment !

The Big Five want you to save your data in their cloud, a limited amount (< a few Gig) even for free.
But there is no such thing as a free lunch (or OneDrive, Google One, iCloud, etc).
I use a few external HDs for backup, so I have under my own control and am not dependant on the Americans.
And all data is under US law, regardless where stored, in USA, EU, AU or China.

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The Big Five want you to save your data in their cloud,
Its actually getting worse as they now want you to use "cloud based computing" as well. ie they not only get your data, but see what you do with it every step of the way. No more private standalone software, you rent as you go.

Internet goes down and you cant work anymore???
I used to think that last bit wasnt a great drama until the recent debacles with Telstra/NAB etc, where we now see how fragile their backroom systems really are, after (metaphorically) consolidating everything into one place.



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Old 30-05-2018, 10:07 AM
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I like the photos with the clouds in the background and the reflection in the clean room but this is probably more like it.
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Old 30-05-2018, 03:31 PM
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Imagine going into the room with all those yellow ' network cables ' and swapping a few around for a joke....
I know .... let Leon loose in there
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Old 30-05-2018, 06:03 PM
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Now that would be fun
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Internet goes down and you cant work anymore???
Its happened many many times with companies that make a gadget or app (usually a fitness fad) that stores your data in the cloud and then they go out of business and now your expensive gadget wont ever work again. Plus for those who are monitoring critical health problems but can't ever access their data to give to thier doctors because the gadget company owns it.

Its a huge privacy concern and not desirable "feature" to anything. Finally some people are realising what they gave away just to have this feature. Only YOU can keep your data safe. Some cloud solutions that let you access data anywhere on any device are handy but only while that company is still around or your subscription paid up.

Still many Network Attached Storage (NAS) devices now have their own personal Cloud solutions, so you can have a beefy "external hard drive" the NAS, at home as part of your network so you can access your files from any of your home computers plus with a web based interface to their cloud software you can have your own cloud at home that you can access anywhere in the world via an internet connection on any device.

Then your data is YOURS, on YOUR hardware, safe as you like in YOUR home. Why give money to someone else to hold your data for you so they can sell what they like to marketing firms . They are under no obligations to let you know they about to go belly up and take your files with them either.
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One large EM pulse - like a nuke deliberately detonated very high up - and it's adios Cloud etc.

Just sayin'...

I refuse to install iCloud on my computer even though I use an iPhone. If I cannot store it myself on removable drives, it is NOT important to me. I'll use Dropbox for totally trivial things.
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Only YOU can keep your data safe.
Yes and no.
Imagine a house fire where the lot gets burnt???
How many people would have their local NAS in a fireproof enclosure?

Using "the cloud" as a third backup of your data ( encrypted if reqd ) is probably a useful interim utility, but my main concern wasnt a company going out of business, but more like the net temporarily going out of business due to poor design/maintenance.

Telstras recent "burnt pit somewhere in outbackistan" taking out most of the eastern seaboard of OZ makes you wonder what else is holding on by a thread.
To much "maintenance by failure" and consolidation has taken place for something as critical as being able to get to your bit of "The Cloud", irrespective of any other privacy concerns.


Still there was one silver lining.
When all the systems crashed and vendors announced they could only take cash, i walked to the front of the line, paid cash and walked out with my shopping.



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