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Old 29-10-2018, 06:56 AM
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Problem is fixed.

I added 100uF capacitor next to the pin 9 of DD8, going between the pin 16 and 12 track and GND. Image 1 shows the location of the capacitor.

Interestingly adding a capacitor next to pin 16 on the top of R16 to GND did not have any effect. In this position it is even closer to pin 16 as in the example above. Image 2 shows the location of the capacitor.

Also it should be noted that the quality of the power supply plays an important role. I tried several and some had vertical stripes which were not visible with other power supplies.

Finally, image 3 shows noise for 0ms exposure of the improved Cam86. It was kept in the fridge for few minutes to cool down but not for too long as I didn't want to have condensation on it. My guess is that the sensor was at 10-15 degrees C. Also the sensor was not in complete darkness (light leaking from the left hand side on the image).
Hi Luka, has the latest PCB been corrected for this issue?
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Old 15-11-2018, 05:41 PM
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Hi Luca,

Sorry for the slow reply. Haven't check the IIS forums for a while, usually I on it several times every day but other things got in the way

No, the PCB is still the same. The Ukrainian PCB has the same issue, although I the effect may be smaller there.
I have tried using other capacitors but the lines did not improve much. Patrice (from French forums) used a larger tantalum capacitor (on Ukrainian PCB) and that helped. However, the capacitor is only rated for 6.3V which is way too close to 6V for my comfort. With the tantalum capacitors I like to have at least double-the-voltage derating.

Having said that, I have found out that the vertical stripes are not an issue, the bias files correct for them 100%. Also the image corners usually get cropped anyway.
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Old 10-01-2019, 07:08 PM
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Hello everyone.
I have been following this thread, as well as the others of astroclub.kiev.ua and cloudynights related to the CAM8X project. I thank you for the great job you have done.

The doubt that I have, after reading them in both places and for the modifications that have been introduced in this time, is to know which is the most recent version. I believe that the most current version of the project is your IIS PCB. So I would be very grateful if you could tell me where I can look the latest CAM86 project files.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:03 PM
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PM Luka but I’m not sure what the files are up to atm. I had to stop the project due to hospitalisation and on going issues. Also the group would want you to actively assist on development not just grab the latest files.

I hope to rejoin devolpment but could be up to 6 months before I can. Also I think Luka is quite busy atm
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:21 AM
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Hi Marcos,

Can you PM me regarding your request.

There are two versions of the PCB, ours and the original Ukrainian. Our version:
1. has improved TEC power
2. has an issue with capacitors being too far from one of the components (DD8) resulting in vertical lines on the left side of the image.
This is not really a problem as bias files completely remove the vertical lines from the final image.
Also the vertical lines can be overcome by using larger capacitors and some "creative" soldering.
(Note that the Ukrainian version also has vertical lines but less intense)

Luka
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Old 11-01-2019, 01:35 AM
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Thank you very much to both.
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There are two versions of the PCB, ours and the original Ukrainian. Our version:
1. has improved TEC power
2. has an issue with capacitors being too far from one of the components (DD8) resulting in vertical lines on the left side of the image.
This is not really a problem as bias files completely remove the vertical lines from the final image.
Also the vertical lines can be overcome by using larger capacitors and some "creative" soldering.
(Note that the Ukrainian version also has vertical lines but less intense)
With his explanation now I have it more clear. I will send you a PM, thanks so much!!
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:34 PM
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The project is still alive and kicking

New driver update, v0.8.3 can be found at the usual place. No change to the firmware.

Changes:
Fixed the bug where sometimes the camera parameters do not get set up properly if the camera has just been powered on.

Have fun and let me know of any bugs.
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Old 11-06-2019, 05:06 AM
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Weird issue

Hi Friends,

I just completed the IIS CAM86 thanks to Luka's files. I have all the tensions right, flashed the eprom etc but the test image without sensor looks a bit weird

I double-checker all the soldering, they look fine. Any suggestion? Maybe a defective Vertical Driver?

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Old 11-06-2019, 12:40 PM
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Which firmware are you using? Try the original Ukrainian one.
Also double-check the soldering on the vertical driver.

Otherwise the best is to ask the question on the Ukrainian forum, Rim usually replies quickly.
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Old 12-06-2019, 04:50 AM
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Hi Luka - I tried also the v01 firmware, no luck. The 1267AN joints look OK, in doubt I redid them again with a bit of solder. No improvements.

I have registered on the Kiev forum, let's wait their answer. Maybe an issue the 1267AN from China ... but I will solve it.

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Old 04-07-2019, 08:29 PM
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Cam86 x64 driver

Hi,

would it be possible to have a 64-bit driver for Cam86? I would like to try my Cam86 with N.I.N.A. (https://nighttime-imaging.eu/), but the recommended 64-bit version of it only accepts 64-bit drivers...

Thanks!

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Old 04-07-2019, 11:07 PM
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Not easy.

The DLL with the basic camera functions is written in Delphi. I only have a really old version of the compiler which can only compile 32-bit. I am scared even to look how much a new version of Delphi costs.
So I may need to rewrite the DLL which is a big job.

Alternatively I could try using the 32-bit DLL from a 64-bit application but that requires writing a wrapper DLL as in Windows it is not possible to run 32-bit DLL from 64-bit application. Again more work.

Let me look into it a bit more...
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Hi Luka,

did you try FPC? (https://wiki.freepascal.org/Main_Page)
It seems it supports some Delphi, but I am not sure if it would work for the low level library of Cam86. I will give it a try, although I am not at all an expert in programming!
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:51 PM
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Apologies, I thought that I already replied on the progress of the 64-bit driver. Mixed news, it is working but not well.

Embarcadero, the current owners of Delphi (after Borland) have a free version of Delphi for hobbyists. That includes a 64-bit version.

With it I managed to import and recompile both projects (FTDI driver + camera driver) but nothing worked. Our code was written before Delphi was migrated to unicode. I had to manually change every string and all string functions and eventually I managed to talk to the camera.

Unfortunately the new driver keeps crashing and debugging a DLL called from a DLL (which is called and calling another DLL) is not that trivial. And things being written in two different programming languages (c# and Delphi) does not help either.

I have not given up but finding where the problem is may take a while. It probably is something simple... but I still have to find it

By the way, the main DLL went from 300kB to 1.6MB in size, simply by recompiling it with the new Delphi compiler
I am not sure if there will be more issues once it is working properly.
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No need to apologize at all!
Thanks for trying and compiling a 64-bit driver: I am sure you will manage, eventually!

Nico
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