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Old 07-01-2015, 01:59 PM
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Hi Malcolm,

It should start to operate first thing as the sun hits the panel.
There is a 3" to 4" hole on the side of the tank to provide extra ventilation.
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Old 07-01-2015, 02:05 PM
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Hi glen,

This is what I was hoping for.
On a 35 deg/c day at 15:00 I measured the temp inside the tank and it was 1 deg lower on the bottom of the tank and 1 deg higher at its highest point.
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Old 07-01-2015, 02:15 PM
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Thanks Marc,

It is going to be a nice little project. I have got the Aluminium flat bar to go around the top section to reinforce when I cut the top off. Like a biscuit tin. Dig a hole place the tank over it. And drop the pier in with concrete. Pop the top section off and have a open sky.
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Old 01-03-2015, 12:44 PM
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Some more image updates.

Here are some images for ideas, if anyone is trying to start a astro shed.
I have almost completed my shed.
I have been very busy trying to finish this project. Very hard with shift work and family.
I will add some thoughts and experiences very soon.
Image 1 from left shows tank area with lifting hoist for roof.
Image 2 roof swung to side out of the way.
Image 3, 4, 5, and 6 how gear looks inside tank.
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Old 01-03-2015, 02:57 PM
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:27 PM
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it looks awesome.
looking forward to the writeup, interested in the hoist,how easily the roof goes on and off and wall strength.

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Well on your way Dennis, nice work on a very good concept ! !
Looking on with interest ,,,,
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:37 PM
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Building Information.

Thanks guys for your comments.

Well where do I start .
I guess what attracted me to the water tank idea was the shape, it looks like a real observatory and has a sealed floor (To keep out bugs).


Door area:
I knew that the tank would lose strength when it was cut. So I used 80 x 6mm aluminium flat bar for the door areas (in and out) and top of tank rim. I also used a 40 x 25 rhs steel tube for both sides of the door for added strength. For me this was enough strength and it kept the price down as well. My first cut (door area) was with a jigsaw it was not ideal for cutting this material very shaky. I made the door first while the tank strength was still was intact. The aluminium was bent by hand on a metal frame (kids climbing frame) not perfect but close. Rollers would be nicer!. The end part of curved sections was bent with a large hammer between 2 points (blocks). The door making went ok but to hang it I had some movement even with supports under the door. two persons would be better.


Roof:
Now the roof section had to be cut. Not liking the shaky cutting of the jig saw made me purchase a mini rotorazer saw for $50 a bit like a grinder with saw blades. This made cutting the top section very easy. I chose to cut along the seam plus 50mm giving me as much wall height as possible. This was a mistake for 2 reasons. Firstly I should have made the cut at 100mm from the seam, my scope is a little low because of the wall height. Lucky I have extra room on the puck and I will get bigger longer bolts to compensate. Secondly the roof section would have been less wobbly. When the side hoist lifts the roof aprox 20kg it flexes and 2 sides sag about 200mm. This is because of the thin rim on top my 50mm cut not 100mm this would have made it more stable. To compensate I use a second lifting rope placed over the lifting arm with a hook on the sagging sides to support the roof keeping it flush (level) all round. Its not hard but could have been avoided.


The top rim:
The aluminium flat bar was made in 2 sections for the top section where the roof sits on. It made attaching much easier. It has made a lot of difference in the wall strength. When the roof is off the wall has some flex but for me no extra strength was needed. I guess one could add another aluminium bar further down.

The lifting hoist:
The longer larger diameter hoist pipe is attached to the wall in 3 places with cut flatbar washers it seems to hold ok. And is around 600mm above the tank. The second shorter smaller diameter hoist pipe fits inside the other longer pipe and is resting on the top support bolt giving about 1m height for the metal cables to be attached to. The arm that extends out across the tank is made of aluminium pool cover roller pipe (second hand). It was drilled with a hole saw to fit over the smaller diameter pipe resting on a aluminium plate which was hole saw cut as well.


One thing I found frustrating is the coloured silicon does not stick well on the poly tank so I used a clear silicon ( Selleys all clear ).


More to come!.



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Old 09-03-2015, 12:08 AM
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Hi Dennis
I have several polytanks for my garden, a 1000L and 4000L. Anyway, during my research into tanks, I also considered steel tanks as well: tankworks.com.au. They make to order, according to customer specified dimensions, so I wonder if you could get one made without the top cover? Just a thought... Although they tend to be more expensive than their plastic counterparts. cheers, Fox.
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:42 PM
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Hi Dennis
I have several polytanks for my garden, a 1000L and 4000L. Anyway, during my research into tanks, I also considered steel tanks as well: tankworks.com.au. They make to order, according to customer specified dimensions, so I wonder if you could get one made without the top cover? Just a thought... Although they tend to be more expensive than their plastic counterparts. cheers, Fox.
Hi Fox,
You should give them a call and tell them your plans.
What materials would you build your roof out of.
I know some one who has a metal shed it is a very nice setup.
I feel that a metal roof would make more noise when handling it.

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Old 09-03-2015, 12:54 PM
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it looks awesome.
looking forward to the writeup, interested in the hoist,how easily the roof goes on and off and wall strength.

regards,

rusty
Hi Rusty,
Thank you, The roof comes off very easy. Putting it back on requires me to line up one of the bolts which can be a little fiddly due to my 50mm cut instead of a 100mm cut (flex). then the other bolts line up much easier.
It takes about 3 to 5 min to get the roof on. I am getting better each time.
Plus its harder because I am tired 2-3 am in the morning.
The old way took me at least 30min to pack up mount and gear and the next morning sorting out optics from kitchen table.
This makes thing a lot easier.

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Well on your way Dennis, nice work on a very good concept ! !
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Thanks Bob.
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:40 PM
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Roof off images.

I have attached three more images:
Tank2b image is where the top is off and two hooks are being attached.
Tank4 & 5 images are showing the roof swung to the side with the two hooks and rope. This keeps the roof level.

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