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06-02-2018, 01:16 PM
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Gravity does not Suck
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I wonder how they would go with compulsory voting...I expect such would be opposed as it interferes with their rights somehow.
Alex
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06-02-2018, 02:06 PM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Laramie, WY - United States of America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xelasnave
I wonder how they would go with compulsory voting...I expect such would be opposed as it interferes with their rights somehow.
Alex
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To be clear, it does.
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06-02-2018, 02:22 PM
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Gravity does not Suck
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Originally Posted by OICURMT
To be clear, it does.
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Interesting.
So making voting compulsory would be rejected no doubt.
Is there any case for the proposition that it is one of the duties of being a citizen that you must vote?
Alex
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06-02-2018, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroID
I have a good word for him, a few in fact.
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John Oliver (host of "Last Week Tonight") often has some good words for Donald Trump; e.g.:
"Donald Trump is America’s back mole: it may have seemed harmless a year ago, but now that it’s gotten frighteningly bigger, it is no longer wise to ignore it"
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06-02-2018, 02:43 PM
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Trump has often said that he has not been given his fair due for what he has done for share prices ...
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06-02-2018, 06:07 PM
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Location: Central Coast NSW
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And after Friday's performance, I'm sure he will be vewy vewy qwiet about it...
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06-02-2018, 06:08 PM
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Politically incorrect.
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xelasnave
Interesting.
So making voting compulsory would be rejected no doubt.
Is there any case for the proposition that it is one of the duties of being a citizen that you must vote?
Alex
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I believe the original premise behind democracy is that everyone had a say. Alas, it also assumed everyone would make an intelligent, informed decision.
Hmmm, Do ya think there may be an explanation here for why democracy is failing so dismally...
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06-02-2018, 06:13 PM
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#6363
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Let's also be reasonable here.
The reason that the Americans vote on a Tuesday was so that (back in the day) farmers and their kin-folk could ride the ol' ox wagon into town to vote. Some folks had to leave home a day prior, so Monday wasn't practical. And Sunday is the Lord's.
Slow forward to this day, they refuse to see the impracticality of this system in the modern world. To change it is to kill a tradition, even if it is a stupid one.
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06-02-2018, 06:40 PM
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Gravity does not Suck
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Originally Posted by Shano592
And after Friday's performance, I'm sure he will be vewy vewy qwiet about it...
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Are our stocks effected?
Any good buys from panic?
Alex
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06-02-2018, 06:50 PM
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Gravity does not Suck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by el_draco
I believe the original premise behind democracy is that everyone had a say. Alas, it also assumed everyone would make an intelligent, informed decision.
Hmmm, Do ya think there may be an explanation here for why democracy is failing so dismally...
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I think democracy is a ancient Greek idea but it gave the vote only to certain people the idea of everyone having the vote and democracy may need thinking thru.
Heck if it was up to me only ten percent would get the vote and to vote they have to win a cage fight and graduated with honors and look like me.
Hopefully somehow which ever number get to vote sensible selection are made.
Or throw it wide open and everyone gets to vote sbove six years old..who knows how things could inprove..even politicians if they can read itrespective of age let them into parliment...
Would anything change.
Alex
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07-02-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by el_draco
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Come to think of it, I'd rather be broke any day!
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I hear you brother. I wouldn't be rich for quids.
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07-02-2018, 04:33 PM
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Think what you like about Trump but I shudder to think if the alternate candidate had gotten in. We were so lucky he did.
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07-02-2018, 09:34 PM
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No. I am a meat popsicle.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xelasnave
Or throw it wide open and everyone gets to vote sbove six years old..who knows how things could inprove..even politicians if they can read itrespective of age let them into parliment...
Would anything change.
Alex
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Whilst the general experience would change, it's arguable the result would be similar.
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07-02-2018, 09:44 PM
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“We are star-stuff”
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Another disgrace full thread
The depths that Iceinspace has been allowed to sink to...
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08-02-2018, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xelasnave
I think democracy is a ancient Greek idea but it gave the vote only to certain people the idea of everyone having the vote and democracy may need thinking thru.
Heck if it was up to me only ten percent would get the vote and to vote they have to win a cage fight and graduated with honors and look like me.
Hopefully somehow which ever number get to vote sensible selection are made.
Or throw it wide open and everyone gets to vote sbove six years old..who knows how things could inprove..even politicians if they can read itrespective of age let them into parliment...
Would anything change.
Alex
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The world's a stage and politicians are the actors. Above them all the Smoking Man writes their lines...
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08-02-2018, 01:06 PM
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Location: Perth, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shano592
And after Friday's performance, I'm sure he will be vewy vewy qwiet about it...
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Here we go, Trump now takes credit for the stock market plunge as well:
Donald Trump blames stock market plunge on 'so much good news'
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08-02-2018, 02:32 PM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Laramie, WY - United States of America
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luka
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In a twisted way, Trump is correct.
- Employment numbers are good
- Since unemployment is low, this puts pressure on competitive wages, driving wages up
- This implies that the economy is heating up, resulting in inflation.
- Inflation implies federal reserve intervention via an increase in interest rates
- This implies that weighted cost of capital for companies increases
- Investors see this as a cost and therefore can affect profits
- Results are that Equity markets slack off
All of the above were simply due to the perception on how the tax breaks would work. Sounds weird, but the argument has merit (probably the only argument that Trump has with merit).
If you add into the equation that stocks have been very hot lately, a correction was due.
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08-02-2018, 03:13 PM
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Watch me post!
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Dunno about over there, but over here, a lot of the correction has uncorrected itself.
ie the whole pack of cards is based on who can out scaremonger each other ( and make a profit both ways ), not the reality of underlying fundamentals.
Andrew
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08-02-2018, 03:37 PM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJ
Dunno about over there, but over here, a lot of the correction has uncorrected itself.
ie the whole pack of cards is based on who can out scaremonger each other ( and make a profit both ways ), not the reality of underlying fundamentals.
Andrew
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Yes and no... I believe that a lot of the ups and down is programmed trading in action, scaring everyone.
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11-02-2018, 01:01 PM
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Trump is a lying, immoral, dishonest (and probably criminal) moron. Anyone with half a brain can see that. The only reason he is president is because 46% of the American people are complete and utter morons themselves who get all of their information from Fox News. And I say that as an American who has observed his fellow citizens for more than 50 years.
The USA is the laughingstock of the world. We don't do anything right. We have the most expensive education and health care in the world, our government runs a permanent (and huge) budget deficit (i.e., we refuse to tax ourselves to pay for what we buy), the cost of living is outrageous and getting worse, our population is exploding unchecked, and our style of capitalism works only for the rich. Oh, and our federal government barely functions, lurching from crisis to crisis, while all of our serious problems rarely get addressed and never get solved.
And just wait until Trump nukes North Korea.
Last edited by william123; 11-02-2018 at 01:13 PM.
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