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Old 27-04-2018, 08:18 AM
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AZ-GTI WiFi mount

I picked up my new Skywatcher AZ-GTI wifi mount yesterday from Astro Anarchy in Brisbane. They have it on sale for $559, which is the lowest price i have seen for it. I just happened to be in Brisbane visiting relatives and called in to have a look at their new store.
The mount and tripod are pretty solid, and should be fine with my ED60 and TS80 refractors. I hope to have it setup next to my camper at SPSP and do abit of visual astronomy while my main imaging rig is doing its thing.
Thanks to Mike at Astro Anarchy for his help.
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Old 27-04-2018, 07:51 PM
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Looks nice Glen. Are you intending to use the tripod fully extended or did you just want to see how high it goes?
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Old 27-04-2018, 08:48 PM
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I am getting one of these mounts for the little FOA60 and am still trying to decide whether to use my Manfrotto MT055CXPro3 tripod instead of the SW one.
Keen to hear your thoughts on the tripod Glen.
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Old 27-04-2018, 11:44 PM
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Looks nice Glen. Are you intending to use the tripod fully extended or did you just want to see how high it goes?
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I am getting one of these mounts for the little FOA60 and am still trying to decide whether to use my Manfrotto MT055CXPro3 tripod instead of the SW one.
Keen to hear your thoughts on the tripod Glen.
Re the tripod, yes I wanted to see how high and strong it was. It surprised me, it is capable and fairly stiff. I would be using it at a lower height. I initially thought I would use another tripod but think it will be ok now, at least for visual use with my small scopes.

I have been following a CN thread on this little mount and apparently the Star Adventurer Latitude Base ( a wedge) works well to convert this mount to an EQ. If you run the Synscan Pro app you can use the EQ alignment routine.
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Old 27-04-2018, 11:46 PM
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Good to know. Look forward to an update when you get to use it for real.
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Old 28-04-2018, 11:57 AM
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Mine arrives this week

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Old 28-04-2018, 08:57 PM
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Looks good Glen I would be keen to have a look at it see you at the spsp
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Old 28-04-2018, 09:30 PM
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Looks good Glen I would be keen to have a look at it see you at the spsp
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Ok Alan I will be bringing the AZ GT I mount, and i have ordered the Skywatcher Adventurer Latitude Base (EQ), which i should have by the end of this week.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:49 PM
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Update on EQ mods

Ok, the Skywatcher EQ wedge and counterweight and bar arrived this morning, and I have installed it on the AZ-GTI mount.

The wedge fits the AZ-GTI fine but the dovetail lock screw handle (with its large plastic knob handle) fouls the base of the AZ-GTI but it is easy to replace with a regular bolt. One correction to my advice on the counterweight kit, the shaft does not screw into the AZ-GTI, the Star Adventurer countweight shaft (which is 12mm in diametre) has an M8 end thread which is too small and will need an adaptor to be used with this mount. I am trying to source a thread adaptor now. I suppose I could try to run the shaft through a die and see if that would screw in. The alternative may be to use a long Cap head bolt of the correct size, but one which has threads only on the very end, Bunnings sells these i believe . One of the guys on the CN forum in the US is using such a bolt arrangement. The counter weight itself can be used, it has a 12mm bore. You might be better off sourcing an alternative counterweight, as buying the Star Adventurer shaft and weight at $50, is going to need to be modded, money might be better spent on an alternative.

You will need to use the Synscan Pro app, not the standard Synscan app, in the Pro you get options for either Alt Az or EQ alignment. The Pro app also includes polar alignment and solar modes.
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:08 PM
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Hi Glen,
your setup looks great for a super portable EQ mount for small OTAs.
You'll need a quality die to cut a new thread on that SS CW rod! I'd search for shoulder screws or bolts instead. Plenty on ebay at various lengths. I use one as a CW shaft on my AYO mount, as I had spare CWs with 16 mm bore, rather than the standard 20 mm.

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Old 02-05-2018, 04:05 PM
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Apparently the bar from an EQ1 will fit which means the thread is 12mm. There’s also a firmware update to operate it in equatorial mode.

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Old 02-05-2018, 07:16 PM
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Motor Controller firmware update has been applied (Ver 3.11 now, delivered with 3.10). Did some more testing and finally have the setup correct. The mount only works in the way setup in the photo below. In the photo assume south is to the right, counterweight shaft aimed down, elevation as per your latitude (mine is 33 degrees). I found that the elevation sticker on the wedge made no sense at all in the southern hemisphere when mounted with this head in EQ mode, so I removed the sticker and turned it around and oriented it to indicate my elevation. You can see I am using a bolt for my counterweight shaft right now. I have to source a longer one (EQ1 maybe). My counterweight does fit the bolt but I'd like to get one with just threads on the end and smooth bore on the rest of the bolt shaft.

One note on Home position, which I could find no reference to in the Synscan Pro software - until I pressed the Hibernate button, then it asked if I wanted to Home the scope. I guess I have become to used to the CGX home sensor and being able to start and shutdown from/to Home.

All good now, working fine.
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Old 03-05-2018, 11:09 AM
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Finished the counter weight shaft today. Used a 12mm x 220mm bolt from Bunnings. Installed a collar on it with heat shink so it doesn't go too deep beyond the threads into the housing and it shims the bore outside (before) the thread as well. Works well countering my TS80, and I will not be using anything heavier on this mount.
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Old 03-05-2018, 12:19 PM
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Just got a M12 x 300 SS bolt for mine.

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Old 03-05-2018, 12:33 PM
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Good stuff Glen! It looks like a great jigger and the wifi interface and app with a phone or tablet would really be wonderful. (It even knows your time and GPS location via the phone/tablet and/or you can override it if required). I've seen it in a couple of youtube vids.... a very desirable product

Here's 1 I watched with plenty of detail on the phone app.... (you may want to skip through as it's a little long)


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Old 03-05-2018, 01:48 PM
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Glen how heavy is your counterweight.

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Old 03-05-2018, 02:27 PM
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It is 1kg.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:03 PM
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I have been doing some EQ testing of this mount, with my ED60 onboard. The EQ alignment goes fairly well but some of the language the app uses is confusing.
One thing I don't like is you cannot find common names displayed for targets, unless you select "tonight's best". You can't search by name. You need to know a catalog reference to input to goto and there is no lookup function, and no sky display to select from. Pretty basic. I understand now why some people are using two devices, the app plus something else running Sky Safari Pro. Honestly it would be great to just use Sky Safari. What are others finding re usability?
A reminder, the only way to "home" the mount is to Hibernate it, where it gives you the option to Hibernate in place or Hibernate at home.

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Old 11-05-2018, 07:44 AM
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Glen I wonder if using the handset would have the same issues.

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Old 12-05-2018, 01:14 PM
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Glen you’re not alone - the Synscan user interface reminds me of a bad computer game from the 1980s.

There are many objects misnamed, particularly clusters and galaxies. Catalog numbers seem ok.
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