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Old 23-11-2014, 10:57 PM
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Exploring Puppis- Come And Take a Trip With Me!

Exploring Puppis- Come And Take a Trip With Me!
Come take a trip with me and let's explore the constellation of Puppis which is abundant in a feast of objects. Everything from double stars, to planetary nebula, emission nebula, globulars clusters and open clusters. Even a galaxy! Not much in the way of galaxies here as the area is richly embedded in the Milky Way which blocks them out. The constellation has at least 40 open clusters; many are beautiful telescopic objects but a great many aren't clearly visible due to such a dense star field they lay in.

In putting this list together, I've sourced several books and on-line sources to come up with a fantastic list full of variety. I hope you enjoy the tour. It's great fun to stay in and explore one constellation in full, giving a great feeling of achievement and makes it a personable experience with the constellation- the feeling of understanding it so much better when you've finished.




THE SHOWSTOPPERS

M46: OC & PN (An open cluster embedded with a mag. 10 PN)

M93: OC (Butterfly Cluster). Binocular object. A bright and massive concentration of stars with gorgeous colours of blue and gold.
This is one of Messier's last objects he discovered personally. It's located 3,400 light years away. Did he realise when he was observing it that this cluster of stars was 100 million years old? Or realize it was forming when Earth's land mass was breaking up, Dinosaurs walked this planet and the first mammals and birds were forming. So seize the moment when you observe this. (source Universe Today).

NGC 2451: OC. A large and bright binocular object.



GENERAL TARGETS

M47: OC

NGC 2539: OC

NGC 2477: OC

NGC 2467: Nebula (mag. 7- A bright, round, fairly even luminous haze)

NGC 2546: OC

Collinder 135:OC (also contains the double star pi Puppis).

Melotte 71: OC. Medium scopes using low magnification will reveal around 80 stars, containing several reddish stars.

NGC 2669: OC. Mag. 6, measuring 12 arc mins across.



INTERESTING STARS

Dunlop 49 Puppis: Double star. Bright white pair.

pi Puppis: Double star with a mag. 6.86 companion. This is the second brightest star in Puppis.

N Puppis (HN 19): Double star. Just a few degrees NE of NGC 2362. A nice double and easy to separate for any size scope. Its mag. 6 components are of equal brightness, separated by 9.6 arc seconds.

Sigma Puppis: Double star. This is a spectroscopic binary system. A bright orange star with a nearby white companion.

Zeta Puppis: Also called Naos, it's the brightest star in Puppis. In fact, it's one of the brightest O-type supergiants in the sky! At 1,600 light years away, it is 60 times heavier than our Sun. It's expected to end its life in 2 million years and go hypernova.



THE CHALLENGES

NGC 2440: PN (mag. 9.4)

17.5" Telescope (2/14/99): this bi-polar planetary reveals fascinating detail at 380x!
The compact high surface brightness inner region is elongated NNW-SSE. Two bright knots comprise both ends and the surface brightness is irregular. The nebulosity is much weaker SW of the main body with a cup-shaped dark "notch" protruding into this central bar. The outer halo is oriented SW-NE with a brighter wing similar to a spiral arm attached at the west edge which swings back towards the south. The outer nebulosity is weaker and less well-defined on the N and NE sides.

13" Telescope: very bright and small with a very high surface brightness. This planetary has a double shell structure with an elongated box-shape oriented NW-SE and a fainter shell oriented SW-NE. One or two condensations are visible in the central part. Located 3.0' W of mag 9 SAO 153271.
- by Steve Gottlieb
http://www.ngcicproject.org/ngcicdb.asp


NGC 2452: PN (mag 12).

17.5" Telescope (3/2/02): at 380x this is a moderately bright, fairly small but interesting planetary. Appears elongated N-S, ~30"x20" with an irregular surface brightness and a slightly darker center or a darker spot. The halo appears brighter at the north and south ends giving a slightly bipolar appearance with the impression of two lobes diminishing in brightness in the center. A faint mag 14.5 star is just off the north edge. Located 8' S of open cluster N2453.

13" Telescope: moderately bright, small, slightly elongated N-S, no interior star visible. Located 6' S of open cluster N2453.
- by Steve Gottlieb.
http://www.ngcicproject.org/ngcicdb.asp


NGC 2298: Also called Dunlop 578. Globular cluster. Mag. 9. It has many variable stars and according the Hubble telescope is on its way to disruption as studies show it's losing mass.

NGC 2427: Galaxy. Around mag. 11 and about 7 arc minutes in size. This is a very low surface brightness spiral galaxy so use a low power eyepiece as it won’t take to any kind of magnification. According to Universe Today, studies have shown it displays peculiar velocities in it’s HII regions and may display gravitation instability.

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Old 23-11-2014, 11:46 PM
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Thanks for this wonderful read. Makes me want to get out my notes on all these objects and do some revisiting!!

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Old 24-11-2014, 12:10 AM
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Smile Excellent!

Thanks Suzy!
What a complete text about this wonderful region of the sky.
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Old 24-11-2014, 12:34 AM
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Thank you Malcolm & Denise. I'm really excited to start this tour.
Malcolm, if you have the time, I would love it if you would please post your observation notes here.
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Old 24-11-2014, 12:55 AM
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NGC 2440 is a great PN to observe,In an 8"scope it is small and bright but in a 16" scope can be dissected and even better with O111or UHC filters.
Good challenge Suzy.
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Old 24-11-2014, 06:45 AM
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Well done Suzy.
Nebula NGC 2467 and OC NGC 2477 are two of my favourites.
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Old 24-11-2014, 12:11 PM
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Thank you Ron and Glen, I look forward to observing those objects you both mention. Getting feed back on them makes them all the more exciting to pursue .
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Old 24-11-2014, 01:41 PM
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The Planetary Nebula (NGC 2438) embedded in the Open Cluster M46 (NGC2437) is not in fact part of this cluster.
The distance to the PN is 3260 LY while the distance to the cluster is 5542 LY.
M46 is a splendid cluster,but in IMHO the PN really gives it that special status.
The PN is observable in scopes as small as 4", I know this as this was the first planetary nebula I observed and it was in a 4" Questar scope way back in February 1987 from a dark sky site near Marberg West of Ipswich Queensland.
So well worth the effort to track this object down.
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Old 24-11-2014, 11:07 PM
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Here are some notes from my records:

M46 (NGC2437) Observed 20/12/08 with 8" dob and 25mm EP (48x) and 10mm EP (120x)
Very faint cluster. 1 10th mag star lies 1deg west. Cluster filled FOV with 10mm EP
Also observed on 5/1/09 with same instrument
Observed PN NGC2438 within cluster using OIII filter, clear circular object within cluster.
M93 (NGC 2447) Observed 20/12/08 with 8" dob and 25mm EP (48x) and 10mm EP (120x)
No notes taken
NGC 2451 Observed 3/12/09 with 12" dob and 24mm Panoptic (62x)
Open cluster of several bright stars. Main star (C Puppis) appears reddish/orange in colour.
M47 (NGC2422) Observed 3/12/08 with 8" dob and 25mm EP (48x) and 10mm EP (120x)
Open Cluster, 1 mag 5 star to N
NGC 2539 Observed 21/12/09 with 12" dob and 24mm Panoptic (62x)
Broad cluster maybe 20' to 25' in diameter. Many faint stars about mag 9 with large number of much fainter stars
NGC 2477 Observed 3/12/09 with 12" dob and 24mm Panoptic (62x) and 13mm Nagler (115x)
No bright stars but enormous number of faint stars. Seems extended E-W with trail of slightly prominent stars to E. Higher power (115x) revealed many more stars. Should be glorious once culminated and under dark skies. Averted vision assists with seeing many more faint stars.
Observed 27/1/11 with 12" dob.
Larger OC with hundreds stars. No bright members, appears to have a slight extension to N.
(Note, trail of stars mentioned in both reports ACTUALLY goes to NE!)
NGC 2467 Observed 12/4/12 with 12" dob and 17mm Ethos (88x) and 13mm Nagler (115x). Also observed on 8/2/11 but no notes taken.
Very clear in 17mm EP as a nebula. UHC filter improves view at 115x. Some evidence of dark lanes almost like a "mini" Trifid nebula. Extension of nebula to F are hard to see.
Open Cluster Hafner 18 lies just off NF edge of brightest part of 2467 with 3 or 4 obvious bright stars. Mafner 19 lies N of Hafner 18 and has 18 or so faints stars embedded in patch of nebulosity only detectable using UHC filter.
NGC 2546 Observed 3/12/09 with 12" dob and 32mm Plossl
32mm EP revealed a "river" of fainter stars connecting 2 mag 6.5 stars running NP to SF. Very low power required, higher power destroyed view.
Mellotte 71 Observed 23/1/12 with 12"dob using 10mm Ethos(150x)
Located 2.5deg N of M47. Faint irregular shaped cluster of faint stars mag 11-12. Has a prominent isoceles triangle of brighter stars on P edge. Looks very nice at 150x, almost like a loose globular.
NGC 2440 Observed 8/2/11 with 12" dob
Very small but quite bright PN. Slightly elongated EW. Faint green tinge, OIII filter shows very well.
NGC 2298 Observed 8/12/10 with 12" dob.
Globular cluster, lies 3.5deg S of Kappa Canis Majoris. Small and fairly faint. No obvious core, averted vision helps to reveal some "mottling". 3 or 4 mag 12 to 13 foreground stars are seen.

Obviously I haven't observed all these, and some of my notes(especially the early ones!) are a bit sketchy. Also my descriptions of some objects as faint reflects only using a small dob and the light pollution in my backyard!

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Nice writeup Suzy. Hope you don't mind me adding a few photos from the list, recently taken of objects in Puppis.

Comet 2014 Q2 (Lovejoy) about magnitude 8. Very easy to see in the 8" F4 with a 13mm TV eyepiece.

NGC2451, M93 and M46 with embedded PN NGC2438. All taken with the 8", the comet, M93 and M46 between cloud gaps are from last night.
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Old 25-11-2014, 08:14 PM
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Malcolm, thank you so much for those observing notes, it'll certainly help with observing these targets and I will take it out to the scope with me.

Kevin, I appreciate these gorgeous pics, thank you so much.
It's great to put a picture to some of these targets.
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Malcolm, thank you so much for those observing notes, it'll certainly help with observing these targets and I will take it out to the scope with me.

Kevin, I appreciate these gorgeous pics, thank you so much.
It's great to put a picture to some of these targets.
No worries Suzy. Most of them are from a while ago and re reading my notes I have realised I really wasn't making good enough notes back then, some very nice objects just getting a line or 2! Guess I'll have to go back and do over!!

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bump.
It's a great list as Puppis is good viewing now.
The sky is finally clear here in Brisbane so I'm about to head off and do my list . Four months later . Stupid weather .
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