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Old 21-06-2017, 10:10 PM
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Pussy Paw Galore ...

... NGC 6334. This is a work in progress.

I actually got very good seeing last night (better than 2.1 arcsec FWHM average across all subs)! Alas, I fiddle-farted around for over 2 hours early in the night getting the composition right and recovering from a couple of software crashes. Then I only got 2.5 hours of Lum before thick fog came in (very annoying because that's rare around here). Anyway, it's looking very good and I was surprised by it's beautifully intricate structure and tonality because not many renditions, except for the ESO 2.2m version - at full res, show it well. The filaments within the jelly fish at top right look amazing.

BUT, this is only 45% full scale to hide noise from the low integration time and artefacts from my quick, preliminary processing. I can tell you though, full res is looking pretty spectacular ... but I'll hold off posting that though until I get more Lum and add RGB and probably NB.

45% full scale - screen sized:
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Fingers crossed for some more good seeing nights this lunar cycle!!!
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Old 21-06-2017, 10:22 PM
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Looks very good to me Marcus. Looking forward to the final result.

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Old 21-06-2017, 10:26 PM
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Looks great Marcus ,
that's sharp & clear.
I can't wait to see the RGB too.

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Old 21-06-2017, 10:34 PM
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Wow. Simply excellent as is. It can only get better
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Old 21-06-2017, 10:43 PM
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There is some really nice filamentry detail showing up, looking forward to the final product. Hope you're getting better skies than melb, otherwise you'll never get there haha
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Old 22-06-2017, 05:21 AM
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Terrific sharp details and pinpoint stars. You must be happy with that.

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Old 22-06-2017, 06:25 AM
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Looks great, Marcus!
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Old 22-06-2017, 08:05 AM
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Incredible shot Marcus. Best cat paw I've seen to date. ESO's got nothing on yours.
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Old 22-06-2017, 08:42 AM
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Looks very good to me Marcus. Looking forward to the final result.

Cheers

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Cheers Steve! Me too! Hope the seeing is as good next session!

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Looks great Marcus ,
that's sharp & clear.
I can't wait to see the RGB too.

cheers
Allan
Thankyou Allan! The scaling down helps too but it does hint at the clarity at full res. If I can get another session with as-good conditions I'll post at full res.

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Wow. Simply excellent as is. It can only get better
Cheers Peter! Not bad for a mere 14" eh?

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There is some really nice filamentry detail showing up, looking forward to the final product. Hope you're getting better skies than melb, otherwise you'll never get there haha
Thanks Colin! Yes, I was blown over by the structure of this beastie. I've got everything crossed for another good long session but weather here sucks most of the time. Whenever I get a night of clear stable conditions it feels like Christmas!!

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Terrific sharp details and pinpoint stars. You must be happy with that.

Greg.
Thanks a lot Greg! Scaling down always helps make things look crisp but, seeing permitting, the final full res should be impressive, especially after decon. At 2 arcsec seeing (what I consider "good to very good" around here) I'm oversampling enough for decon to work well.

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Looks great, Marcus!
Thanks Rick!

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Incredible shot Marcus. Best cat paw I've seen to date. ESO's got nothing on yours.
You're too kind Marc - thanks mate! I did notice that the full res ESO shot is a bit noisy, but look past that and the detail is gorgeous. I'll get close to it but of course a 2.2m will always win!
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Old 22-06-2017, 08:56 AM
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That's already delightful, Marcus. One of the few emission nebulae that look good in luminance as opposed to H-alpha. Makes the stars sparkle.

We've always seen the jellyfish at top right as being a barbecued chicken seen from above, complete with drumsticks and Parson's Nose, with the fine filamentary structure you've captured so well being the crispy skin. But it could also be a jellyfish. That fits with the very obvious shark's fin at 8 o'clock to the jellyfish.

Excellent!
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Old 22-06-2017, 09:04 AM
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That's really very sharp Marcus! My wife reckons that's a crocodile on the top left lol.

I've started this one too a few nights ago but the cloud keeps wrecking progress.
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Old 22-06-2017, 09:34 AM
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Yes looking quite speccy Marcus So are you saying to Greg above there is no decon used on this yet? It looks like Ha ...seeing rules!

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Old 22-06-2017, 10:35 AM
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That's already delightful, Marcus. One of the few emission nebulae that look good in luminance as opposed to H-alpha. Makes the stars sparkle.

We've always seen the jellyfish at top right as being a barbecued chicken seen from above, complete with drumsticks and Parson's Nose, with the fine filamentary structure you've captured so well being the crispy skin. But it could also be a jellyfish. That fits with the very obvious shark's fin at 8 o'clock to the jellyfish.

Excellent!
Thanks very much M&T!! Barbeque chook eh? I'll take your word for it! I didn't see the shark fin until you told me. I saw a star trek insignia instead - I guess that's very telling of my Star Trek fan status!

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That's really very sharp Marcus! My wife reckons that's a crocodile on the top left lol.

I've started this one too a few nights ago but the cloud keeps wrecking progress.
Thanks Kevin! OK, a crocodile - why not! I can see that now!

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Yes looking quite speccy Marcus So are you saying to Greg above there is no decon used on this yet? It looks like Ha ...seeing rules!

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Cheers Mike!

To clarify. I do bicubic sampling when registering my subs and that always increases FWHM a bit (in this case from 2.0 to 2.1 for the subs to 2.26 for the stack). To compensate for this AND to tighten up the stars (because I'm always oversampling) I always decon in CCDStack. In the first instance I decon'ed the stars only by dropping the signal level (Pixel math) so only stars are affected by the decon. This dropped FWHM to 1.8 and did not noticeably affect the neb or sharpen noise. I usually always do different decons too and layer them in PS. For example, when I have more data I'll also (gently) decon to include the neb and layer that decon'ed neb in PS. Oh yes, and I did do some contrast enhancement on the neb in PS too.

Bottom line - I always decon and if you're not decon'ing your oversampled data - you're not processing your data fully IMO! Of course, if I had 1 arcsec seeing decon probably wouldn't be necessary.
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Old 22-06-2017, 11:47 AM
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Cheers Mike!

To clarify. I do bicubic sampling when registering my subs and that always increases FWHM a bit (in this case from 2.0 to 2.1 for the subs to 2.26 for the stack). To compensate for this AND to tighten up the stars (because I'm always oversampling) I always decon in CCDStack. In the first instance I decon'ed the stars only by dropping the signal level (Pixel math) so only stars are affected by the decon. This dropped FWHM to 1.8 and did not noticeably affect the neb or sharpen noise. I usually always do different decons too and layer them in PS. For example, when I have more data I'll also (gently) decon to include the neb and layer that decon'ed neb in PS. Oh yes, and I did do some contrast enhancement on the neb in PS too.

Bottom line - I always decon and if you're not decon'ing your oversampled data - you're not processing your data fully IMO! Of course, if I had 1 arcsec seeing decon probably wouldn't be necessary.
Oh I agree and follow a similar processing approach (but no pixel Math or is that "Maths" ) and I decon (nearly) all the time too, I just thought your reply to Greg suggested you might be saving the decon for the final version, was just asking as it looks nice and crisp .

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Old 22-06-2017, 01:23 PM
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Top stuff Marcus, it's a work of art already!
Ive not see it presented in LUM only before - well done
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Well done Marcus. I can't wait to see full colour / res.

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Old 22-06-2017, 05:24 PM
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Ja, ja, sehr gut!

I do not think I have ever seen the cats paw quite like that! Very nice!
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Old 22-06-2017, 05:31 PM
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Gobsmacking detail there Marcus. Well done.
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Old 22-06-2017, 06:28 PM
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Really impressive, super sharp. The top right section is particularly interesting. Can't wait to see this in RGB or NB.
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Old 22-06-2017, 09:59 PM
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Top stuff Marcus, it's a work of art already!
Ive not see it presented in LUM only before - well done
Not quite a Rembrandt yet, but I'll give it my best shot! Thanks Andy! I'll also try not to make it look like a monochrome red blob when I'm finished!

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Well done Marcus. I can't wait to see full colour / res.

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Thanks JA

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I do not think I have ever seen the cats paw quite like that! Very nice!
Cheers Bart! Long focal lengths have a habit of showing different views and fine structure of familiar objects.

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Gobsmacking detail there Marcus. Well done.
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Thanks very much Geoff!

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Really impressive, super sharp. The top right section is particularly interesting. Can't wait to see this in RGB or NB.
Thanks Jerome!
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