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Old 11-01-2020, 10:30 AM
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It is a pity folk light fires ..humans and animals suffer. Earlier response is needed given we move to a dryer climate. We can't wait for a change in energy supply..Las Vegas won't dim it's lights anytime soon..boats that run at five gallons to the mile won't disappear anytime soon..car racing won't go anytime soon...so we must endure despite the greedy consumptiom of the elite and manage our problem of more and greater fires.

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It is a pity folk light fires ..humans and animals suffer. Earlier response is needed given we move to a dryer climate. We can't wait for a change in energy supply..Las Vegas won't dim it's lights anytime soon..boats that run at five gallons to the mile won't disappear anytime soon..car racing won't go anytime soon...so we must endure despite the greedy consumptiom of the elite and manage our problem of more and greater fires.

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Alex, fair suck of the socialist sav mate - it's not just the "elite", it's ALL of us.

Equating it to one sector of our demographic is far too simplistic and actually wrong. To make a change, it's ALL of us or nothing.
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Alex, fair suck of the socialist sav mate - it's not just the "elite", it's ALL of us.

Equating it to one sector of our demographic is far too simplistic and actually wrong. To make a change, it's ALL of us or nothing.
You missed my point
. I feel wasteful energy use needs to be addressed from top to bottom. If we each looked at our waste and addressed it we would be far better off.
Five gallon's an hour is just one point of waste. It's all about reduction carbon so the waste needs to be addressed right now. It is an obvious else you are not serious.

Why else did we get indecent lights sidelined.
One must address waste and greedy consumption or one is not serious.It is a part of the mix.
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Alex, fair suck of the socialist sav mate - it's not just the "elite", it's ALL of us.

Equating it to one sector of our demographic is far too simplistic and actually wrong. To make a change, it's ALL of us or nothing.
I reject your socialist labelling. An adhominim that neutralises your position. Not necessary or called for. Take it back.
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Tooked back.

OK, how about we use a woke term....hmmm.... elitism
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Tooked back.

OK, how about we use a woke term....hmmm.... elitism
I don't get involved enough to know what woke means And perhaps the action to focus upon is as I said the waste of energy, not limited to gas guzzler boats , while we wait for the ultimate solution. Think of the reductions possible if we were to address waste...I don't understand why to suggest such brings your response..you clearly don't see waste a problem..got it.. Holding expectations that Las Vegas uses less light and therefore energy therefore the carbon we fear could not be addressed in any other way than invoking calls of elite etc. You prefer to focus on elite etc...I am not elite but I call the waste out and to address it is no different to stopping someone drilling holes in the boat whilst most are bailing the inciming water.. ..how about...may I ask do you wish to take the opposite position and extol the virtue of the lights of Las Vegas?
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