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23-01-2020, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Kilmore, Australia
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I think if people are worried about snooping processes they need to worry about a lot more things than Win10.
By my understanding, updates still can't be turned off without digging in to the registry or some jiggery-pokery in routers to block some traffic or similar tricks, but unless you really do want to have your PC totally isolated from the internet it would be best to just let it update. In my experience, W10 has been broken by updates less often than my iphone has. The other bugbear of Windows 10 updating and restarting itself in the middle of the night without user interaction is now easy to deal with, set the active hours to span the entire night and the problem is gone.
I don't see eliminating connectivity as a solution myself, I remote in to my mount PC and run it headless (It has not had a monitor or keyboard plugged in to it in 12 months) and it is using software to copy image files to my NAS in the house as soon as they are downloaded from the camera. They are then replicated on my PC in the house. Unless I want to go outside to make a basic change or just see how things are progressing, mine has to be on my network.
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23-01-2020, 02:16 PM
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ze frogginator
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,062
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miki63au
Update:
Well, MS not take no for an answer... after boot up this msg appears.
And blank all other monitor till I shut it down the blue screen msg.
Ah, and not just $300 for the new OS but please buy a new PC too.
Sure, $$$ grows on trees... not on mine unfortunately
Mick
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That's just a splash screen. You can turn it off by ticking "don't remind me again". In no way does it stop win7 to boot or work as advertised. Maybe you're having another separate issue with your machine.
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23-01-2020, 11:25 PM
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A very 'Senior' member.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: South Coast N.S.W.
Posts: 2,568
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The free upgrade, (whatever), from WIN 7 to WIN 10 is still available.
Go to your "friendly" MS site & look for the "Media Creation Tool."
Info on how to use it is available on the site.
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/soft...load/windows10
Back up all your stuff before doing the upgrade.
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24-01-2020, 04:07 AM
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Dark sky rules !
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: 52N 6E (EU)
Posts: 1,152
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Get a Mac (or if it is too pricy, install a Linux distro on an existing computer) and get VirtualBox. It runs W10 perfectly, isolated from your host OS.
I have macOS and occasionally I need Windows and then I use Virtualbox. When Windows updates with the blue screen 'configuring updates, don't turn off your PC', I can happily continue on macOS on the same computer.
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24-01-2020, 05:19 AM
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Feel free to edit my imag
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Llandysul, WALES, UK
Posts: 1,381
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Originally Posted by miki63au
Merry Christmas everyone
I've been told by an IT guy MS will stop supporting W7 and I should install W10.
I hate changes and now everything working OK on my telescope comp.
I use CdC, PHD2, DSS, PS, Backyard EOS, FireCapture, Nebulosity, Autostakker
Should I expect trouble to make it all work or the installation is relatively 'painless' ??
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Mick
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If you hate changes then how about Windows 95
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25-01-2020, 12:00 AM
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1¼" ñì®våñá
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,845
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You can still upgrade W7 to W10 for free. I did it in December because of the ending support, and the pc still feels the same. All my apps worked despite this being a W7 that was installed back in 2011.
Here is a link to a page with more info:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-...ws-10-upgrade/
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25-01-2020, 07:58 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 388
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Thanks guys, excellent discussion
The question is in my mind now.... is it worth it? Will it improve performance, security etc. Is the OS bigger than the W7 and generate more unnecessary files to clog up the HD? Or perhaps clean itself?
I'm not an IT expert and reluctant to dig in deep to setting I have no idea of.... fear of screw things up. But always can ask help from IT guys I guess...
So, is it worth it? Or, like some of you suggest stay with W7?
My PC used for control telescope, cameras , guiding, processing as well net surfing, download and upload files etc.
Cheers,
Mick
Last edited by miki63au; 25-01-2020 at 10:25 AM.
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01-02-2020, 04:35 PM
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1¼" ñì®våñá
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,845
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Mick, it actually cleared up some space on my HDD when I upgraded to W10. To get the upgrade through I had to initially clear some space (my W7 was on an old 80Gb SSD) and I only had 6Gb free. So I cleared it out to 15Gb free space, did the upgrade, and ended up with 25Gb free space!
As for performance, I notice no difference.
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01-02-2020, 08:02 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal
Mick, it actually cleared up some space on my HDD when I upgraded to W10. To get the upgrade through I had to initially clear some space (my W7 was on an old 80Gb SSD) and I only had 6Gb free. So I cleared it out to 15Gb free space, did the upgrade, and ended up with 25Gb free space!
As for performance, I notice no difference.
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Thanks Andrew
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02-02-2020, 07:55 AM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Laramie, WY - United States of America
Posts: 1,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imme
The only thing I have to say is make sure you stop all updates occurring....there seem to be never ending automated ones happening every time the sky is clear and they occur when your back is turned in the middle of imaging runs.
Apart from that I’ve been fine with w10
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Two ways to do this in Windows 10...Under : Start/Settings/Update & Security , Click on either
"Pause updates for 7 days" (self explanatory)
"Change active hours" and set it to 7pm to 7am, which will stop updates from running at night.
OIC!
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16-02-2020, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Thornleigh Sydney
Posts: 638
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I am on Win 7 and as this is now not supported by Microsoft I believe that they are providing a free upgrade to Win 10. I have been told that after a long upload/installation/update period the initial start up of the new Win10 can lead to the message "User profile failed the sign-in" which then does not allow access to Win 10 and involves a difficult and lengthy "fix".
Any opinions/experience with this problem?
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16-02-2020, 06:41 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pjphilli
I am on Win 7 and as this is now not supported by Microsoft I believe that they are providing a free upgrade to Win 10. I have been told that after a long upload/installation/update period the initial start up of the new Win10 can lead to the message "User profile failed the sign-in" which then does not allow access to Win 10 and involves a difficult and lengthy "fix".
Any opinions/experience with this problem?
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Would be a nightmare for a non IT dude (like me)
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17-02-2020, 09:41 AM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Cudgen NSW
Posts: 171
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pjphilli
I am on Win 7 and as this is now not supported by Microsoft I believe that they are providing a free upgrade to Win 10. I have been told that after a long upload/installation/update period the initial start up of the new Win10 can lead to the message "User profile failed the sign-in" which then does not allow access to Win 10 and involves a difficult and lengthy "fix".
Any opinions/experience with this problem?
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I have found this to be exceptionally rare. Of the dozens I have done in recent months for clients I have had only maybe 5 that have failed and each one reverted back to Windows 7 without intervention.
(This assumes you are using a USB stick to do the upgrade created with the free Media Creation Tool.)
How old is the computer you are planning to upgrade ?
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17-02-2020, 08:59 PM
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A very 'Senior' member.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: South Coast N.S.W.
Posts: 2,568
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Just another little hint...or 3...
When performing the so called "Upgrade", make sure that there's nothing else
plugged into any USB port, 'cept for your mouse & keyboard. (If applicable.)
Might also be a good idea to either turn off, (If possible, if not, then un-install)
your current A/V program.
Both have been known to interfere with the WIN10 installation.
Also.....Disconnect the M/C from the internet.
You can check for any updates, later.
Last edited by RAJAH235; 17-02-2020 at 10:04 PM.
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