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Old 30-01-2017, 12:36 PM
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I have a feeling something unexpected is about to happen.
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Alex, unexpected had already happened (Trump was elected).
So, form now on, you can expect only the expected...
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Old 30-01-2017, 12:58 PM
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Alex, unexpected had already happened (Trump was elected).
So, form now on, you can expect only the expected...
I was one of the few who thought "this mug could pull it off" after all its marketing, getting your face on tv and he knew how to get his face on tv and so advertise his face.
I always thought crazy things are possible.
What I wonder about is who may be the next president and is he out there right now getting ready for the next election.
I wonder who we have.
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Old 30-01-2017, 01:07 PM
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Of course we can only expect the expected because we can not visualise or define the unexpected, that is why it must remain unexpected.
Aliens landing on the white house lawn must be "expected" even though we donot really expect such.
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Old 30-01-2017, 01:12 PM
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There is probably half of the US population are happy that he is acting... Thats the real worry. Probably more than half I would like real figures. But my point is think of the huge number of voters who support his actions, I dont care how small the percentage the fact there are supportors who think he is right.. thats a worry no matter who is president.
Retire grab your money and go peasant store much rice and bottled water spend spare cash on security.
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55% of the voting public bothered to vote.
Trump got in with 25.5% of the total voter and non voter but registered population. It's nowhere near half the population of the country
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Old 30-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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55% of the voting public bothered to vote.
Trump got in with 25.5% of the total voter and non voter but registered population. It's nowhere near half the population of the country
Thanks for some facts.
My point remains that any percentage of the population who sees his actions as called for is the worry. You are talking millions of funny folk if you see what I mean.
It does not take a majority of nutters to do damage and somehow I feel the support limited to your numbers is of concern.
Thanks for some numbers.
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I think it does indicate a future in the US where government will be based on the capricious whim of the man at the top and "unintended consequences" be damned. "it is working very very well, just great, doing exactly as we expected"
That is the problem. Trump certainly doesn't consider all the consequences. He is not a suitable person for president.

AND he is placing like- minded advisers in high positions. Any advise they give will justify his policies and actions.

Possibly Trump chose these people so they would back his action and then he can say all the advice he is getting says what he is doing is appropriate and legal.

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Old 30-01-2017, 02:21 PM
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That is the problem. Trump certainly doesn't consider all the consequences. He is not a suitable person for president.

AND he is placing like- minded advisers in high positions. Any advise they give will justify his policies and actions.

Possibly Trump chose these people so they would back his action and then he can say all the advice he is getting says what he is doing is appropriate and legal.
He is not different from any other politician... They all do the same thing - surrounding themselves with family/mates and other like minded people.
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Old 30-01-2017, 02:23 PM
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I was outside pounding an iron stake into the ground and thinking about Donald Duck when a thought crossed my mind that made me stop and ponder.

What if... there is a post Trump era in the U.S.? These folks are already getting royally pissed off to the point where Republicans are speaking out... so what happens if there is a "Day after". Then I had a few other thoughts which generated new questions:

- Will the Republican party still exist?
- Will the Yanks do some soul searching and turn away from capitalism in its most gross form?
- Will they smite the religious freakies?
- Will they take out the big business types who go for profit at any cost?
- Will they take climate change seriously?
- Issue in a new era of global cooperation?

... or am I wondering whether this is a round about way of asking whether they'll develop a moral compass, conscience or ethics again?

... or will the joint just be a radioactive wasteland as we wait "on the beach"?

I cant remeber a time since the 60's when the dice were rolling like this.
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Old 30-01-2017, 02:53 PM
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Alex: most of what happens in the future is 'unexpected'!
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(Unless your crystal ball needs fresh batteries?!)
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Old 30-01-2017, 03:28 PM
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true? or not....
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Most of those figures seem reasonable Bojan, except that the number of
fatal shootings that I have seen quoted for the U.S. was much higher than
11,737, more like 40,000, but who knows which [if either] is correct.
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Old 30-01-2017, 07:15 PM
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I suspect a lot of the problem comes down to the psychology behind "multiple deaths" in one incident.
Averaged over 10 years, a few bombings comes out at a small number, but at the time, multiple deaths at one site becomes a major event, and with the assistance of over zealous reporting, it sticks in peoples minds, and politicians leverage it.
Just look at what happened in Melbourne a week back.
Stupid and tragic event, but that many people die and more are injured every week in one off accidents, and it is just treated as normal unless you are personally affected ?????

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Old 30-01-2017, 07:17 PM
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Whilst I vehemently abhor Trump, I cannot put into words the utter fear, loathing, worry, dread and utter repulsion I feel towards the Democrats - if Hillary had become POTUS, I can guarantee a war created by the US, against "terror" by a totally US created IS would have eventuated, and most likely, because of Putin's desire to thwart the US's transparent plans (and creations), ergo in all likelihood, a war with Russia. It does not take a genius to read the writings on the wall about the "War" on terror - the why's , the who's, the how's and the if's. Hillary was hell-bent on bringing the world face to face with war because of her regimental idea of the US again policing and controlling the world, predominately through the financial sector and through sheer military power.

I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists, and still do for the most part, but some conspiracies are becoming more believable every day.

Trump will not last a year, one way or the other.
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Old 30-01-2017, 07:25 PM
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I suppose that somewhere someone will take a bet.
I wonder if betting has started.
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Old 30-01-2017, 07:31 PM
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This is just me thinking....

...but following on from what Lewis just said, would it be silly to suggest that the Russians hacked the polling machine to ensure Trump got in to avoid Hillary becoming POTUS, thereby saving the world from an unwinnable confrontation?
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Old 30-01-2017, 07:38 PM
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Most of those figures seem reasonable Bojan, except that the number of
fatal shootings that I have seen quoted for the U.S. was much higher than
11,737, more like 40,000, but who knows which [if either] is correct.
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Raymo,
Suicides make up the difference. My understanding is that 40,000 people die in the US each year from gunfire, but the great majority of those deaths are by suicide.
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I suppose that somewhere someone will take a bet.
I wonder if betting has started.
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Donald Trump impeachment odds halved as bookies reveal flood of bets on President failing to complete term

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7535696.html
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Donald Trump impeachment odds halved as bookies reveal flood of bets on President failing to complete term

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7535696.html
Thanks for that.
I bet you would get good odds at a eight year term.
Maybe a twenty year term.
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Thanks for that.
I bet you would get good odds at a eight year term.
Maybe a twenty year term.
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Dry, Alex, very dry :-)
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I don't think he will last more that 2 years in the office.
He is putting up fight with multinationals... Not good for him.
Split personality syndrome?
I hope so.

I never understood why this egocentric lunatic has been put as a candidate for president.

His name fits in this row of villains:

Stalin - Hitler - Franco - Mao Zedong - Pinochet - Videla - Saddam Hussein - Khadaffi - Honecker - Kim Jong Un - Jorge Chavez - Duterte - Trump.
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