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Old 17-03-2018, 12:28 AM
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DSS alternative.

As DSS won't work on my comp, I am looking for an alternative that has similar features. Being a decidedly non affluent OAP I am hoping to find something suitable that is also freeware. I am led to believe that Autostakkaert is for stacking video files.
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Old 17-03-2018, 01:07 AM
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If it doesn't work, what is your operating system?
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Old 17-03-2018, 01:58 AM
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W10 Malcolm. It does crazy things such as when I try to import an image
I click on a row of images to select them, and it allows one to be selected and then the cursor shoots off to the upper left corner of the screen almost as fast as the eye can follow. Another fun thing is when I try to save the final stacked image, it saves one of the pre stacked single frames as it came out of the camera.
I had multiple serious problems with this new laptop, and assumed that the DSS problems arose from that, but after being forced to reinstall W10 and the laptop then working fine, the DSS problems are still there, despite having
deleted and reinstalled it from different sites.
I have been using DSS for years on my other older laptops with XP, and W8
with no problems whatsoever.
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Old 17-03-2018, 09:17 AM
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Still sounds like a potential Malware issue Ray. Unwanted mouse cursor movement can be Malware trying to execute uncommanded inputs.


Anyway, alternatives to DSS:
CCDStack (HIGHLY recommended, despite the price)
PixInsight (as above re price)
AutoStakkert

A couple others too, but names elude me.
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Old 17-03-2018, 02:41 PM
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I cant explain why it is not working, I just installed DSS on my Win 10 machine and it works fine.

DSS is fairly old and no updates that I am aware of since my last use. I think commercial products have better support and features and becoming more popular. While DSS still works on my PC, I will continue to use it
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Old 17-03-2018, 02:55 PM
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I tried Autostakkert Lewis, but it doesn't seem to have any instructions, and
I couldn't make head nor tail of it once I imported 4 subs, so I'll have to see if there are any videos on Utube. In the meantime I'll have to use DSS on
my old unreliable laptop.
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Old 17-03-2018, 05:04 PM
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Raymo...

some pretty good instructions here:

https://www.astrokraai.nl/software/S...mber%202016%20[68%20-%2072].pdf

I get far better results for planetary with this, and late one night i accidentaly put a stack of DSO TIFFS in it...
(dragged and dropped a bunch of them)


it processed them in seconds where DSS would have taken minutes...

it may not have too many options to play with, but for a novice like me thats a good thing!


P.S.

"the DSS problems are still there, despite having
deleted and reinstalled it from different sites."

i thought DSS was here: "http://deepskystacker.free.fr/english/download.htm"

this might be your problem - you've picked up malware from a dodgy site...
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Old 17-03-2018, 05:33 PM
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Hi sharkbite, the autostakkert related site you posted could not be found by my browser.
I'll try downloading DSS from the site you posted .
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Old 17-03-2018, 05:43 PM
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The DSS site you posted was the first site I downloaded DSS from.
I always try to use the original sites rather than third party ones such
as CNET. Anyway I just downloaded it again, and its still stuffed.
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Old 17-03-2018, 05:56 PM
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Which version are you running Raymo?
Version 3.3.6 was released on the forums which never made it to the main site. That may fix the issues.
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Old 17-03-2018, 06:06 PM
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Thanks, I'll have a look for that.
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Old 17-03-2018, 09:36 PM
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Hey Raymo
Long time buddy. If still no luck i can try get you the version i use works fine on my windows 10 64 bit pc. Maybe teamviewer i can transfer the file might be too big to email

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Old 17-03-2018, 10:04 PM
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Hi Ben, I'll try anything, although not sure what teamviewer means.
I routinely send images up to 10Mb by email.
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Old 17-03-2018, 10:25 PM
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Private message your email ill send you a copy that use

Any issues. Teamviewer is a remote control software. Where i can control your pc and easily file share. Could be worth looking at whats going on before during and after the install. Unless your coming up to perth anytime soon
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Old 18-03-2018, 11:35 AM
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PM sent last night.
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Old 18-03-2018, 09:33 PM
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Hi Ben, my grandson turned up today, and he is a computer whiz. He
looked at my comp and said the problem is overwhelmingly likely to
be in the registry, and that a straight forward reinstallation of W10
will not fix it. He said that it needs a complete reformat, which he will
do for me shortly.
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Old 19-03-2018, 10:51 PM
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Hi Ben, my grandson turned up today, and he is a computer whiz. He
looked at my comp and said the problem is overwhelmingly likely to
be in the registry, and that a straight forward reinstallation of W10
will not fix it. He said that it needs a complete reformat, which he will
do for me shortly.
cheers Raymo
If the registry is the problem, I usually enlist the help of CCleaner software. Has worked well in cleaning up the registry, but doesn't always work.
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Old 20-03-2018, 04:10 PM
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Assuming you are using the latest version of DSS, it is a 64bit aware, 32bit application. What this means is, it runs as a 32bit program but can handle larger memory space than 2GB.

BUT

This function isn't enabled by default.

You can activate it by using an application called "Large address Aware" to change a flag in the executable to allow it to access your RAM beyond 2GB limit. This solves issues when stacking particularly large files (over 24MB) or large numbers of sub 24MB files.

Another note, the dialogue they use dislikes selection of more than 100 files at a time. You can use many more, but only do the import at around 100 files at once.
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Old 20-03-2018, 07:23 PM
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Thanks for the replies Malcolm and Phil.
I have downloaded several different versions inc 32 and 64; all display
the same problems, and all stack o.k. once I can get the images accepted,
and I can play with the final image, but not download it.
My W8 laptop did a long auto update the other day, and magically
reappeared with W10, and DSS on that laptop is now displaying some of the same problems my new W10 laptop has, so it looks like W10 and DSS
are mortal enemies. I have an old W7 laptop with a working DSS on it,
so I'll have to make sure I stay offline with it.
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Old 20-03-2018, 08:20 PM
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No issues with Win10 here.

Where did u get the 64bit version? it isn't an official release from the original author

http://deepskystacker.free.fr/english/download.htm
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