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Old 03-08-2018, 06:41 PM
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Eye of God - testing Riccardi reducer - 26 hours of Ha

Hi all,

To date I only made a few brief attempts at using Riccardi reducer, as I found imaging with a short 4"refractor at f/4.5 more demanding than much more casual f/6.

Thanks to Glen's and Greg's clarifications on calculating correct spacing when accounting for thickness of filters in the imaging train, I corrected the spacing and star shapes have improved. Thank you Glen and Greg very much.

Humidity has gone up a bit so I may need to wait a bit for a few clear nights, nonetheless last night weather gods allowed me to collect initial 6 hours of 3nm Ha. I wish I had 5nm Ha to include nitrogen line.

I will most likely drizzle the data for the proper image.

6 hours of Ha: https://cdn.astrobin.com/thumbs/hggz...6_wmhqkGbg.jpg

10 hours of Ha: https://cdn.astrobin.com/thumbs/YHAK...6_kQt6vfvn.jpg

26 hours of Ha: https://cdn.astrobin.com/thumbs/evyP...6_kQt6vfvn.jpg

Thank you for looking
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:03 PM
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A simply impressive result
Very tight data. Nice
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:22 PM
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That looks great, Suavi!
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:37 PM
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Thank you Peter and Rick for your encouragement. Hopefully I will be able to put together a decent for my aperture image of the Helix - this is one of the targets that I really wanted to image for some time.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:43 PM
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You're welcome for the advice, its what this forum is all about.

Again I am gobsmacked. This is more like the data from a much larger scope.
The CFF/QSI combo is amazing and really well suited to each other.

Yes imaging at F4.5 is going to be much more challenging for squareness, tilt, spacing etc but in my opinion its worth the effort.

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Old 03-08-2018, 11:55 PM
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Your off to a good start Suavi, I'm sure when you add data from your other filters it will be an excellent image. I'm surprised by how bright the centre area is with the Ha filter as that area is mostly OIII.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:35 AM
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Yes your there that looks good Sauvi HA
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:44 AM
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Thank you Greg, Bill and Martin for such kind feedback.

Got 10 hours of quickly processed (to check how much more of 3nm Ha I need before moving onto OIII): https://cdn.astrobin.com/thumbs/YHAK...6_kQt6vfvn.jpg

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Old 05-08-2018, 01:33 PM
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Looks good to me. Looking forward to seeing the end result.

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Old 05-08-2018, 02:02 PM
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Looks like quality data is being collected and a fine Helix is on the way Suavi...just needs more data

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Old 05-08-2018, 05:02 PM
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To get the faint chevron at the far left under those conditions is amazing.
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Old 05-08-2018, 05:14 PM
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Looks good to me. Looking forward to seeing the end result.

Steve
Glad you like it Steve. Skies are relatively clear but there is high humidity at the moment and fog forms quite easily. I am hoping for a drier and cooler breeze from SE

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Looks like quality data is being collected and a fine Helix is on the way Suavi...just needs more data

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Glad you like it Mike. Doing what I can with my 105mm and foggy nights...

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To get the faint chevron at the far left under those conditions is amazing.
Thank you Mike and Trish. I hope there will be a bit more signal in the outer regions in OIII. I may need to invest in a 5nm Ha or perhaps in a narrowband nitrogen filter...wouldn't mind having a go at exploring planetary nebulae with my small refractor.

EDIT: Found this link to a website showing Ha and OIII. It looks like I need to add more Ha to highlight the outer bits a tad more...

http://www.capella-observatory.com/I.../PNs/Helix.htm

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It's looking fantastic so far Suavi, that 4" really punches above its weight!
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:25 PM
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It's looking fantastic so far Suavi, that 4" really punches above its weight!
Thank you Colin for your encouragement.

Although it is not a 4" benchmark-setting scope like FSQ106, but at about 60% of the cost of FSQ, it does a decent job.
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Excellent extended detail and nice field. Well done Suavi.
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Thank you Rodney.

Now I am up to 17 hours of Ha. Reaching the point of diminishing returns quickly.
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Hi all,

Last night weather and equipment allowed to add a few more hours - 3nm Ha adds up to exactly 24hrs. It is my personal best/deepest for a single filter for any given dso.

Background noise of drizzled stack is at about 1.5 ADU (st.dev), and the faintest bits are just 1.4 ADU above the background in 15-minute subs, which at gain of 0.26 e/ADU equates to about 1 photon every 45 minutes, if my maths is correct.

https://cdn.astrobin.com/thumbs/Rc9j...6_kQt6vfvn.jpg

I think I will try taking advantage of the New Moon and start OIII.

Thank you for looking
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EDIT: I remembered that Mike and Trish took a very deep photo of this PN in Ha, so I looked it up: https://photos.smugmug.com/Category/...s%201x1-X3.jpg


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Old 11-08-2018, 07:10 AM
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Lookin' good Suavi! Looking forward to the final product.

You're doing some epic integrations these days... I usually manage about 2hrs a night in terms of actual data collected, takes me forever to get the kind of integrations you're cranking out in a few days.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:08 PM
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Thank you Lee.

I have been just lucky with the weather and our backyard is an enormous upgrade from all previous inner-city locations. Also, once I learnt to trust SGP to reliably run an overnight imaging session, I have been able to acquire much more data and much more easily. An obsy would be the next natural upgrade...one day.

Keeping fingers crossed for some more clear nights before the inevitable rise in humidity that spring attracts to North/Central QLD.
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Fantastic! You've got a lot more than my last attempt from home with the hyperstar.
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