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Old 02-11-2007, 08:40 PM
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8P / Tuttle

Another comet should reach naked eye brightness is 8P/ Tuttle, which will race past us in late december this year......... 0.255 AU away at closest approach to Earth!

Check Astronomy 2007 for ephemeris or this link:
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/Ephem...ets/0008P.html


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Old 03-11-2007, 06:42 AM
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Someone convert that to direction and altitude for me?
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:06 PM
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27 Dec - 12 degrees due north, rising about 2 deg per day to 52 deg due north on 6 Jan (these times for about 8pm AEDST)
Seems to reach highest altitude of 80 odd degrees after this....
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:08 PM
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Excellent! Something we can see, maybe What magnitude is it?
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:32 PM
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SNP gives it magnitudes 5-6 or so.....
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Hey Lee can you check something for me please, since you have SNP. I updated the orbital info for C/2007 F1 Leonos and 8P/Tuttle in my software. If I have done this correctly these two comets should cross each others visual path and come within 1 deg of each other on 29-05-08 and stay that way each night until 2-06-08. I am not sure that I have updated it all correctly and I cannot work out how to make the magnitudes correct any more. However if I am correct and they are both at visable mags then they will both fit into the FOV of most low power EP's. Now that would be something to see, two comets in one FOV.

Edit: I just found the RA & Dec co-ordinates for them and their mag listings for the above dates, on a website. It would appear that I am correct in the positioning of them, but unfortunately Tuttle will be mag 14 and Leonos will be mag 16 at this time . Oh well maybe someone with a huge scope will get some beneift from this post.

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Old 06-11-2007, 03:12 PM
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Will do, will need to wait until after work though.... should have it up by 6-6.30 unless someone beats me to it.....
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Oh yeah thats right work. Thats the only problem with this site, your lunch hour turns into your lunch three hours without you realising it.

Thanks Lee for checking that info for me, I will check back later tonight, or maybe during my lunch three hours tommorrow
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:47 PM
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Rex - you really know boats!
These are finder charts for 30 May 2008
Note Crux in bottom left of image.
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More charts for days after..... 31 May, 1 Jun and 4 Jun 08
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Thanks Lee. Great stuff, now I know how to update orbital info. Pitty they will be so faint. Maybe Santa will bring me a scope big enough to see them . Thanks again for your help Lee. Incidentally I found this out by accident. After updating the details of one of them I tracked it forward to see how long it would be visable for and noticed it crossed paths with the other one. Was very exciting, until I found out they would be too faint. Maybe they will flair up to naked eye like 17p/holmes. we can only hope .
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Heres a link about 8P/ Tuttle

http://cometography.com/pcomets/008p.html

Interesting to note that it's 0.25 AU pass this time around will actually be the closest it's ever been since its discovery in 1790!
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Just an update and a reminder about 8P/ Tuttle......

Received a report that its currently 9.5 mag and brightening steadily.
Its gonna be a short trip past us come Dec 29th, so keep and eye and an ear out!
Outbursts are always possible with comets!


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Reports coming in from the Northern Hemisphere, 8P is currently mag 7.5 and coming on well, not visible here yet, the next week and a half will be worth the wait....(unless these clouds have other ideas)

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8p

The attached map is from SkyMapPro starting on 28/12 at 10pm DST.
North is at lower right.Tuthiil will go near M33, M74, N676, N908 and N1097.
It will be at its brightest (approx mag 5.7) on 6/1.
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Old 19-12-2007, 08:09 AM
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Thanks Glen, with any luck we'll have some clear skies in the new year.
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Brightening trend continues, reports of m1 = 6.9

Can't wait to see this!
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more than one way to watch 8P!

hot off the press - see what i mean about cutting it fine with announcements lol
good for the northerners yet again *sigh* i guess it means their the ones to get hit first

'URSIDS 2007

We expect a significant shower on December 22, with a peak
around 20 - 22.2 UT and a full-width at half peak intensity of
about 2 - 8.5 hours (most likely around 5 hrs).

It would be great if this prediction could be confirmed. The
Moon is not favorable, but we hope that this does not discourage
visual, video, and photographic observers. The outburst is best
seen from Asia or Europe and by radio forward meteor scatter observations.

Below is the CBET announcement with some of the same information.

Peter Jenniskens

(pjenniskens@seti.org)

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Electronic Telegram No. 1159
Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams
INTERNATIONAL ASTRONOMICAL UNION
M.S. 18, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA 02138, U.S.A.
IAUSUBS@CFA.HARVARD.EDU or FAX 617-495-7231 (subscriptions)
CBAT@CFA.HARVARD.EDU (science)
URL http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/cbat.html


'URSID METEORS 2007
P. Jenniskens, SETI Institute, writes that he and his colleagues E.
Lyytinen, M. Nissinen, I. Yrjola, and J. Vaubaillon (Jennniskens et al.
2007, JIMO 35, Dec. issue, in press) predict an outburst of Ursid meteors
associated with the imminent return of comet 8P/Tuttle to perihelion. The
peak of the outburst is predicted at 20-22.2 hr UT on Dec. 22 (most likely
21h.4-22h.2), when the shower rate (ZHR) will be about 40-80 meteors/hr, or
4-8 times the normal Ursid activity. The outburst may last as short as FWHM
= 2 hr if dominated by dust trails that were ejected during AD 700-900, or
as long as FWHM = 8.5 hr if older dust trails are involved. Meteors should
radiate from a geocentric radiant of R.A. = 218.3 deg, Decl. = +75.5 deg
(equinox 2000.0), with velocities of V_g = 33.52 km/s. These results were
derived by calculating the orbital evolution of meteoroids ejected by
comet 8P in the period AD 300-1400; it was found that encounters with
Jupiter at the ascending node of the comet orbit shortly after ejection
move the meteoroids in mean-motion resonances that evolve the dust into
earth-crossing orbits, creating a stream or filament that is elongated
perpendicular to the earth's path.


NOTE: These 'Central Bureau Electronic Telegrams' are sometimes
superseded by text appearing later in the printed IAU Circulars.

(C) Copyright 2007 CBAT
2007 December 10 (CBET 1159) Daniel W. E. Green'
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Hey Kearn!
Thanks for the info, wish the clouds would go away!
Hope you get a chance to photograph this piggybacked or Prime focus, get out there and start snapping some fillum!
I'll be in Lightning Ridge doing other things until the 2nd Jan, hopefully i can get clear skies and take some tripod shots! Im gonna take my Minolta too cos i have the 300mm lens with that!

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pulled of a britsh website......Comet 8P/Tuttle is brightening rapidly and is now visible in binoculars, although it is quite diffuse and hence difficult to see in the bright moonlight. It is very much like a miniature version of 17P/. It may reach naked eye brightness by the end of December. On December 23 it passes close to NGC281 and on December 30 close to M33....................

finally one that can be seen from melbourne... hope it performs
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