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Old 14-06-2016, 03:50 PM
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I used Thunderbird years ago and was happy with it. The only reason I moved to gmail in a browser was because I was swapping computers a lot. It was just easier to log in wherever I was than to carry an USB stick with my email.
Not sure how much it changed over the past 5 years or so.
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Old 14-06-2016, 03:54 PM
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https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/kb/980534

Or use a different mail client - there are plenty out there.

BTW, Office 365 is brilliant and a bargain in every way - especially if you make use if the family deal for up to 5 users. I've got over a terrabyte of files and photos up in the cloud now and can access them from anywhere on any device. I have the very latest office suite kept up to date and it works fabulously with my mobile devices both on and off line!
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Old 14-06-2016, 03:59 PM
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I am thinking of downloading Mozilla Thunderbird.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

Any comments?
I have been using it for 5 years for work and personal, email. I would get a couple of hundred emails on a typical day and it deals with that OK. I use filters to shunt lower priority email into folders. The search capability is OK but not fantastic. It has been very reliable and I've never lost folders or individual emails due to software crashes or corruption. There are some minor irritations but overall I'm pretty happy with it. Prior to Thunderbird I was using Outlook. I don't miss it

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Old 14-06-2016, 04:02 PM
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Please explain, what happens after July when the free version is supposed to finish.
What will happen.
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Old 14-06-2016, 04:05 PM
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I used Thunderbird years ago and was happy with it. The only reason I moved to gmail in a browser was because I was swapping computers a lot. It was just easier to log in wherever I was than to carry an USB stick with my email.
Not sure how much it changed over the past 5 years or so.


Yes - I use Optus Webmail quite a lot but
windows live mail could allow me to use it from home as an email client.

Unfortunately I have used a Hotmail account for over 14 years & it only works now through win live mail.
So many of my forum addresses etc - even Ice in Space -
are through that address that I will have to go & change my email address
on a dozen websites.
Thanks Microsoft for creating a huge problem.
The only consolation is that everyone else is in the same boat -
it's not just me.


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Old 14-06-2016, 04:07 PM
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Please explain, what happens after July when the free version is supposed to finish.
What will happen.
Cheers

God knows what will happen.
It's a computer nightmare.
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Old 14-06-2016, 09:06 PM
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I am thinking of downloading Mozilla Thunderbird.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

Any comments?
That's what I've used for a couple of years at home Alan without any issues. A little bit different if you're used to Outlook at work, but easy enough to get used to.
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Old 15-06-2016, 12:06 AM
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That's what I've used for a couple of years at home Alan without any issues. A little bit different if you're used to Outlook at work, but easy enough to get used to.

Thanks Rob,
I decided to bite the bullet & just pay so that everything would work.
It's $12 a month after the first month trial & I can cancel that & uninstall it if I want.
So I downloaded all of Office to get that which includes the latest Outlook as well.
It does work with Win7.

see here:
https://products.office.com/en-us/office-365-home

I use Outlook at work & it's the email client I prefer.
I just couldn't afford to have my emails not working -
not even for one day as they are so important for me right now.

It was quite a job to get it all working - about 4 hours.
There was a bug where I couldn't export one folder from Win Live Mail to the new Outlook but it's not an important one.

Hopefully with updates coming in automatically -
Microsoft will fix that bug one day.

So I now have 2 email accounts working in outlook
& it seems to work OK - sending & receiving emails.
I'll test it out over the next month.

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Old 15-06-2016, 02:10 AM
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Upgrading ?

Yes to macOS Sierra 10.12 this spring.

I run Win10 flawlessly in VirtualBox under macOS 10.11 for DSS.
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Old 15-06-2016, 09:44 PM
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Well - I'm not happy with the new Outlook 365.

My new Outlook 365 has a problem
It is stuck in IMAP mode not POP mode
so it synchronises all my emails & places them on the server at Optus
& it won't go to POP mode
I don't think it can work in POP mode the same way that the old Win Live Mail works.
IMAP mode is greyed out so I can't select another mode.

It means that it sent 1000s of emails to Optus & put them into my account without permission.
When I spent ages deleting them -
it synchronises with my Outlook folder & deleted them there too-
now in the trash can in both online & offline.
I didn't ask it to change my Outlook folders at home -
it synchronises without permission.

I have spent 2 hours searching Microsoft & I can't even identify what
version I've got or how to change it to a POP account.
Is it a home edition or business?
There seems to be differences between the two.
I didn't even know that there were different editions.
It says Microsoft Office 365 Version 16.0.6965.2053

When installing it said that it was transferring my settings - but
IMAP or POP is an enormous change in settings & it didn't keep the POP settings.

Can anyone help me?

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Old 15-06-2016, 11:07 PM
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I still use POP, but it is considered archaic in this modern world. Ironic since I have everything else online

(Sorry, I can be of no help!)
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Old 15-06-2016, 11:25 PM
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Allan,

I am not sure what you are doing! I have been using Windows 10 since it first came out and all the problems you are experiencing, I am not. I am using the same version Outlook and I have 6 IMAP accounts, 1 Exchange Account and 1 POP account, all working flawlessly.

The only disappointment is syncing Gmail calendar accounts, but I recently saw Google are offer Exchange accounts for some emails, This may resolve my issues.

It is a damn lot better than Windows 8.1 and operate similarly to Windows 7.
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Old 15-06-2016, 11:37 PM
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I still use POP, but it is considered archaic in this modern world. Ironic since I have everything else online

(Sorry, I can be of no help!)

The only thing I can find is here:
https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c#feedbackText

and it has no resemblance to what I have.

It seems that my Outlook is locked into IMAP mode & there is nothing I can do about it.
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Old 15-06-2016, 11:38 PM
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Allan,

I am not sure what you are doing! I have been using Windows 10 since it first came out and all the problems you are experiencing, I am not. I am using the same version Outlook and I have 6 IMAP accounts, 1 Exchange Account and 1 POP account, all working flawlessly.

The only disappointment is syncing Gmail calendar accounts, but I recently saw Google are offer Exchange accounts for some emails, This may resolve my issues.

It is a damn lot better than Windows 8.1 and operate similarly to Windows 7.

How the hell did you change from IMAP mode to POP mode?

I am sorry - I am losing my temper over this.
I have 1001 other problems to worry about -
& I don't need this problem too.
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Old 16-06-2016, 12:22 AM
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I show a screen shot comparing the two email clients.


You can clearly see that the old win live mail had a pop3 setting
& the new outlook 365 is greyed over as though it can't be changed.
( obviously I've used Photoshop to change my name to donald for security reasons.)
Yet the writing above the new one clearly says POP and IMAP settings -
go figure that out?
Does that help anyone understand what's going on?

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Old 16-06-2016, 10:37 AM
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I have has a look at mine and similarly can't switch between POP/IMAP types - It must have automatically connected that way when the account was created.

I suggest you create a new account for the same email manually and set it to POP from the very beginning. Once you are happy with it, you can remove the IMAP version.
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Old 16-06-2016, 11:34 AM
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I have has a look at mine and similarly can't switch between POP/IMAP types - It must have automatically connected that way when the account was created.

I suggest you create a new account for the same email manually and set it to POP from the very beginning. Once you are happy with it, you can remove the IMAP version.

Thanks,
There is another way that I thought:
I could just put 95% of my In box & Sent items in other new folders at home.
It seems that only the: In box, sent items & trash synchronise.
It would probably be OK then?
At least there wouldn't be 1000s of personal emails stored in the cloud.
It literally went & stored gigabytes of my email files without permission.

Why the hell don't Microsoft give you a warning of what is going to happen before you install their stupid software?
That was an outrageous breach of security & it's their fault.


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Old 16-06-2016, 07:10 PM
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I found the solution - live with IMAP.

I made a new folder in Outlook 365 which is for "this computer only".
Therefore it's not synchronised with the online account.
I have put over 95% of my in box there.
Those emails no longer show online & they are not in any trash bin either.
That's the solution.

I asked the IT person at work & it looks like Outlook 365 will not work in POP mode.
the writing at the top of the frame in the picture is most likely wrong.

cheers
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Need advice! Sorry for off-top! Guys, I heard, that in the new Windows 10, in Office 365, is another's powerpoint templates (like http://www.poweredtemplate.com/ppt-p...templates.html - it is an official resource of windows 10). So what I mean - Is it true? Because I need standard templates like in office 2010, because all my tasks I must do with the same templates, or my boss going to kill me)
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Upgraded to win 10 on one of my two laptops.

As usual, the main really (!!!) annoying annoyances, which progressively get worse with each successive version of windows, are:

- increasingly finicky about what software it will run and won't run.

- progressively worse backward-compatibility with legacy software

- the ever-increasing multitude of background-processes and programs running in the background without the knowledge of the user, 'hidden' hogs of bandwidth that use your precious data allowance when you are online, secret reportings of information back to Microsoft and to other entities on the internet, etc.

You can turn off most of the privacy-busting features, and most of the 'reporting back' features and most of the "hidden background thingies that use CPU & Memory & Bandwidth resources" using readily available fixes on the internet.

However, the problem of Window's 10 inability to run a lot of early-2000s software is nearly impossible to overcome without resorting to nerdy and untidy partial solutions like running a virtual Windows XP operating system. This is why one of my machines is still running Windows 7.
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