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Old 26-01-2021, 09:32 PM
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Flipper

Early days yet on this one...could only get Ha and OIII before both moon and clouds halted further progress.

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Old 26-01-2021, 10:17 PM
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Now that is something you don't see every day. Will be keen to see how this pans out.

Thanks for the view.
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Old 27-01-2021, 04:30 AM
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Wow early days??....what a start...stunning!!
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Old 27-01-2021, 08:33 AM
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Old 27-01-2021, 08:42 AM
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That's an awesome shot Peter. I like the clarity and depth.
Too faint for my skies though. I started on it in Oiii then gave up after one night.
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Old 27-01-2021, 09:05 AM
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Hi Peter,
looks great -
I'm surprised you got such a strong signal.


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Old 27-01-2021, 10:20 AM
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Peter, thats looking good!

The red star to the right of the nebular there, has a strong red halo/bloat while other stars in the field are looking good. Do you know whats going on there? Is that a feature you'd accept as "in the data" or something of a processing artefact? I'm interested as that sort of thing peppers every image I work on (I guess mostly because I don't use any masks in processing), and wonder if its something I should accept or invest time in addressing.

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Old 27-01-2021, 10:30 AM
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Delicate and beautiful! Nicely done Peter.
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Old 27-01-2021, 11:09 AM
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Delicate and beautiful! Nicely done Peter.
Ta Marcus...getting there. The h-alpha data is surprisingly faint. I will likely have to swap out the 5nm filter for a 3nm one for a better S/N

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Peter, thats looking good!

The red star to the right of the nebular there, has a strong red halo/bloat while other stars in the field are looking good. Do you know whats going on there? Is that a feature you'd accept as "in the data" or something of a processing artefact? I'm interested as that sort of thing peppers every image I work on (I guess mostly because I don't use any masks in processing), and wonder if its something I should accept or invest time in addressing.

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Ta ..see above. The star likely is quite red, but it may simply be the h-alpha filter I'm using is a different spec to the OIII.

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Hi Peter,
looks great -
I'm surprised you got such a strong signal.


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The QE if the camera is quite high. That plus a 3nm OIII shows faint structure even in tthe 5 minute subs.
Compared to my FSQ the AP130 has 60% or so more flux collection and is faster, running at f4.5...hence not too hard to harvest photons without
the heroic exposure times

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That's an awesome shot Peter. I like the clarity and depth.
Too faint for my skies though. I started on it in Oiii then gave up after one night.
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Now that is something you don't see every day. Will be keen to see how this pans out.

Thanks for the view.
Ta Guys. My estimate is it will need about double the exposure time gained so far. RGB stars would finish it off nicely.
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Old 27-01-2021, 04:01 PM
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The QE if the camera is quite high. That plus a 3nm OIII shows faint structure even in tthe 5 minute subs.
Compared to my FSQ the AP130 has 60% or so more flux collection and is faster, running at f4.5...hence not too hard to harvest photons without
the heroic exposure times.



Thanks Peter,
I'm a bit confused by what camera you used?
Your info at the bottom of the pic -

"SBIG FW7-STX AstroDon 5nm Ha 3nm OIII"
refers to a filter wheel - not a camera.


Was it your new QHY600?


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Old 27-01-2021, 04:23 PM
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Thanks Peter,
I'm a bit confused by what camera you used?
Your info at the bottom of the pic -

"SBIG FW7-STX AstroDon 5nm Ha 3nm OIII"
refers to a filter wheel - not a camera.


Was it your new QHY600?


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Ah..yes...forgot to mention it my Frankencam configuration.

I'm running an AstroDon set in the FW7 but the h-alpha is 5nm.
Just ordered the 3nm....ouch! A little eyewatering in $A.
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Old 27-01-2021, 09:26 PM
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Ah..yes...forgot to mention it my Frankencam configuration.

I'm running an AstroDon set in the FW7 but the h-alpha is 5nm.
Just ordered the 3nm....ouch! A little eyewatering in $A.



Thanks Peter -
no wonder you have plenty of signal with the QHY600.
The IMX455 chip has a QE of

68% for Ha at 656 nm and
84% for OIII at 500 nm.


That's the new technology for you.



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Old 28-01-2021, 05:15 PM
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The selective distribution of the H-alpha within the nebula as selective little discrete threads is fascinating. I can't think of another object that is thus.
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Old 28-01-2021, 05:50 PM
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Gee that is looking good. I've had a go, have 30 hours and it doesn't touch your rendition.
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Old 29-01-2021, 12:55 AM
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Thanks for your comments...but... as it turns out, I buggered up my processing
by using the wrong flat fields.

In re-processing the data some quite faint stuff is now visible over a wider field, hence the uncropped (albeit rescaled for web-friendlyness) image at the same URL
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Old 29-01-2021, 09:29 AM
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Very nice indeed. I the faint Ha and OIII distributed across the field is a great compliment to the image
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Old 29-01-2021, 03:47 PM
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Very nice indeed. I the faint Ha and OIII distributed across the field is a great compliment to the image
Ta. With there being a few versions of this on the group at present, it was interesting to see the variation from camers/filters/instruments/exposure time etc. to the published result.

My 2.5 hours of data seems paltry, but still shows *Flipper's head fairly well.

Suffice to say the High QE cam + AstroDon's I had sitting, totally unused, for way too long, also clearly helped...

I'm looking forward harvesting a few more photons from this interesting object.

P.S. I was thinking our younger readers may be wondering WTF is "Flipper"
The link should clarify the choice of name.
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