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Old 17-09-2019, 08:05 PM
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Australia the Silly country

Did you know we have only 3 weeks of fuel in reserve !

What a dangerous precarious position for Australia to be in .

https://www.news.com.au/national/att...f5b906d1c4c276


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Old 18-09-2019, 08:19 AM
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Are you aware that our government considers fuel that is in tankers that are on the way here to be part of our "reserves"? This is fuel that we don't actually have yet. But wait, it gets better, if there's a problem bringing in fuel due to "instability" in the region then there are plans to ship our crude to Singapore for processing!


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Old 18-09-2019, 08:26 AM
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Is the 3 weeks based on the current grossly inefficient ways of using fuel (e.g. cars with only 1 person in them, trucking goods where rail service is available etc), or on using only what's actually needed when needed? I expect with the latter reserves would last significantly longer than 3 weeks.
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If you think about it how can you have a larger reserve, there, here, anywhere unless you build hundreds of massive storage facilities all over the country
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Old 18-09-2019, 07:43 PM
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I am aware of the little amount of fuel in reserve however Jeremy dose have a point.

At the rate it is burnt it cant last forever

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Old 18-09-2019, 09:10 PM
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If you think about it how can you have a larger reserve, there, here, anywhere unless you build hundreds of massive storage facilities all over the country
We in Australia had such facilities,as well as refineries,but governments over the years have sold them off and they have been demolished and turned into real estate.
It was considered cheaper to import oil than to manufacture oil her in Australia.
Whe I came to Australia nearly 48 years ago Australia had nearlya dozen oil refineries and a couple of oil fields,I am not sure but I don't think we have one now.
These clowns look at the world through Rose coloured glasses.
Trump has just given them a wake up call,.
If we want help from the USA with our fuel suppies,the you join my guys in the gulf of Hormuz with military ships and aircraft.
Blackmail? to be sure,but Morrison has no other option but to comply.
Yes this is a bloody dumb country.
Before the second world war Australia was send iron billets to Japan which the promptly sent back such metal as bombs and ships and aircraft to attack Australia and allies.
The Prime Minister of the day was called Robert Menzies,Nicknamed Pig Iron Bob for the said act.

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Old 18-09-2019, 09:15 PM
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I am aware of the little amount of fuel in reserve however Jeremy dose have a point.

At the rate it is burnt it cant last forever

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Leon,the trick is to buy when the oil is cheap,then you build up your reserves.
If you only have meager reserves then as a country,
Yes we are bloody idiots.
See my other answer on this thread.

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Report here from today's ABC News.

"Air Vice Marshal Blackburn claims Australia could be brought to its knees in a week if there is a major interruption to fuel supplies."

"Air Vice Marshal Blackburn accuses the Australian Government of being negligent."

The USA has 6 months of reserve fuel.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-...-fuel/11527492
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Old 19-09-2019, 05:53 PM
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In the US I believe they store reserves in underground caverns.
In Australia we donít have to worry about that.
Because we donít have any reserves!
Sad but true, our politicians are doing a great job at not protecting our capacity to be self sufficient!
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Yep, aware of this particular issue but when you look at it from a strategic point of view where sc******. If things heat up our Army, Navy and Air Force will be very much grounded. US holds a strategic supply just to prevent such a scenario.
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Those two political parties Idiots who taken turns to have run this country for a generation have done nothing to fix this ultimate weakness that can wreck us in such a short time period .

When fuel stops ' Anarchy starts !

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Report here from today's ABC News.

"Air Vice Marshal Blackburn claims Australia could be brought to its knees in a week if there is a major interruption to fuel supplies."

"Air Vice Marshal Blackburn accuses the Australian Government of being negligent."

The USA has 6 months of reserve fuel.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-...-fuel/11527492
Thanks for that link , I missed it.

What a disgusting situation we have allowed this country to get in .

Time to buy up some extra cans of backed beans it seems

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Well if the poo hits the fan it will be like what happened in England 1939, when no private citizens were allowed to drive vehicles and all vehicle fuel tanks had to be drained and handed to the Armed Services.

I should seriously look at buying an electric vehicle I think.

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Found this some months ago while researching the history of the Petroleum Operator trade within the Australian Army. It is very poignant as it reflects the same concern as today. If I read it correctly back in 1976 Oil refinerys held about 17 weeks/ 199days of processed fuels way above what we have now. It is a good reference to gage the the effect of federal political decisions over the proceeding 40 plus years.

Oil supply and National Security by Lt Col Ball

https://www.army.gov.au/sites/g/file...8_sep_1976.pdf
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What we forget is just how few people are in this country which limits many grand plans unfortunately.
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Quite true, Alex, but it doesn't help matters when we are run by "career" politicians whose only interest is getting themselves (and their party) elected. It's been a long time since any of them have shown any concern for the long-term well-being of this country.
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Quite true, Alex, but it doesn't help matters when we are run by "career" politicians whose only interest is getting themselves (and their party) elected. It's been a long time since any of them have shown any concern for the long-term well-being of this country.
Sure I agree. But we elect them. It is clear that anything they " stand for" is due to lobby pressure or inducement.
What we need is a company who supplies storage tanks who is prepared to put in the hard yards involved in lobbying to give us what we need.
The attitude to the poor and jobless is the first thing that should change but who is going to lobby for that?
Anyways in spite of our politicians things are not too bad...so good in fact apppathy rules.
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