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Old 14-01-2018, 04:40 PM
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Nuclear attack:- What to do?

The people in Hawaii were subjected to a false alarm and it was forty minutes before they were told it was a false alarm. Apparently there was panic etc. I would like to think that in Oz we would react better, but Cairns had a tsunami warning concerning just the shoreline about 10 years ago and many people headed for the hills. (The sea did rise about 300mm.)

Anyway, a nuclear blast, what should U do? Well, my understanding is that many would survive the blast but would be killed over time because of the radiation. My best advice is to stay at home. Providing the home survives the blast, it will shield U from 90% of the radiation. These are mainly short-period decay particles from the blast and they will mainly clear from the sky in about two weeks. Even if the building has broken windows and dust blows in, the building will still be protecting you from the major proportion of the radiation. So stay at home, inside for 2 weeks and your chances of not getting cancer or other radiation inducted illnesses will be greatly improved.

Don't go sightseeing or checking up on the relatives. A car will give some protection from radiation, but it is only slight compared to staying at home.

Anyway, I trust we have some smart guys on IIS and some may be ex-army. I have put up my 'strawman', on what is the best way to react according to what I have read on the subject of nuclear attacks.

Agree/Disagree with my advice or can U provide a better informed plan?
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Old 14-01-2018, 04:55 PM
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Position yourself fifty klms away from the blast site.
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Old 14-01-2018, 04:57 PM
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Nothing. Better to go quickly in the blast.
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Old 14-01-2018, 05:06 PM
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Someone accidently pushed the wrong button..lets hope the worlds 2 biggest nits don't do the same.
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Old 14-01-2018, 05:06 PM
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Hi Bob,

It must have been dreadful to be in Hawaii and receive that text message.

I recollect being in the US in the 80's and you would be driving listening to
the radio and an announcement would come over "This is a test of the
Emergency Broadcasting System". Then they would play a tone and then
it would sign off with, "This has been a test of the Emergency Broadcasting
System".

They would do the same on TV :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdpLWML_tDU


The best plan is to help ensure that such an event never happens in the first place.

Even a limited nuclear exchange would be the worst day in the history of civilization.

If you new such a threat is imminent and you had time, the first thing you would do is fill the bath tub with water.

This 1959 US Civil Defence training film is a reminder of the spectre of nuclear holocaust during the Cold War :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE-nji8-1Ko

Some of the effects from a nuclear detonation are chronicled here :-
http://www.abomb1.org/nukeffct/enw77b1.html
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Old 14-01-2018, 05:07 PM
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I can recall a report that a Russian Nuclear Technician ( many were frantically trying to shut it down ) was below the Chernobyl Reactor, just outside the reactor walls when it exploded .... he was instantly vaporized by the blast ..... talk about being at ' ground zero '

What would I do ..... PRAY

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Old 14-01-2018, 05:10 PM
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As Australia is a miniscule player in world affairs, and therefore probably
a secondary, or more likely, a tertiary target, I think it highly likely that
a number of nukes would already have been delivered to numerous
primary targets around the world, and that humanity would already be in the pooh, to put it mildly. I suppose that "they" might use a small one to take out Pine Gap, but at least it is in a very low population density area.
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Old 14-01-2018, 05:53 PM
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I suggest everyone watch the classic movie "On the Beach". Imho that is Australia's destiny in a nuclear war.
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Old 14-01-2018, 05:53 PM
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We returned from Hawaii a few days ago - glad we missed out on the excitement. Driving in Honolulu was exciting enough - lots of foriegn tourists driving on the wrong side of the road in a crowded city.

We had a good time but have been looking at south pacific destinations which are cheaper and less crowded AND they're not in any missile flight path.
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:05 PM
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Remember the old expression from the 60's: Put your head between your legs and kiss your a$$ goodbye.

Would seem to be the best approach.
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:05 PM
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I suggest everyone watch the classic movie "On the Beach". Imho that is Australia's destiny in a nuclear war.
Top film Glen, with the one and only Gregory Peck in the cast... Still a must see.

Sad, but a truly possibly end to Humanity.

This explains the film based on Neville Shutes book.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(1959_film)
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:16 PM
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I always thought the 'Duck and Cover ' procedure was the best option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMnKNHNfznE

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Old 14-01-2018, 06:24 PM
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I always thought the 'Duck and Cover ' procedure was the best option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMnKNHNfznE

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Liked the part were the guy covers his head with his newspaper.. very important ..dont forget now!
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:25 PM
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Just tape some chops and sausages to the windows.
At least you get one good hot meal after the electricity fails

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Old 14-01-2018, 06:27 PM
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I find the prospect of nuclear war alarming as the resulting dust polution would prevent me using my new astro imaging gear.
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:29 PM
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A single missile would probably be taken out by defence systems before reaching it's target.
A relative in the US defence business says there's no way anything would get through; I don't know what to think of that advice but he is an engineer with a large US corporation.
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:30 PM
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Just tape some chops and sausages to the windows.
At least you get one good hot meal after the electricity fails

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Sounds like it could be a nice tasty last meal anyhow.
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:33 PM
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A single missile would probably be taken out by defence systems before reaching it's target.
Unlikely here - we donít have any.
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:37 PM
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Unlikely here - we donít have any.
And some think there is some of this possible from Pine Gap..but we still dont know exactly whats going on there.
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Unlikely here - we donít have any.
We're a long way down the list of targets. Australia barely registers in the northern hemisphere.
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