But more seriously, I believe it it just natural selection in action - too much effort (read:cost) and consequently few buyers. IMHO FSQ 130 is really a wide-field astrograph and as such FSQ 106 provides a wider field while still catering for the largest available sensors. If one is after high resolution astro-imaging then larger aperture is required.
Why pay $14,000 when scopes are available, for way way way less these days and the quality is there now
If you have never owned a Takahashi scope you will never understand. Having owned a few Takahashi scopes (FS,FSQ's Refractors and Mewlon) the quality is still above the competition which sells for less. Plus the FSQ's are a four element scope with two ED elements so you can't compare the price against a triplet which only have one ED element except for the Takahashi TOA's which have two.
If you have never owned a Takahashi scope you will never understand. Having owned a few Takahashi scopes (FS,FSQ's Refractors and Mewlon) the quality is still above the competition which sells for less. Plus the FSQ's are a four element scope with two ED elements so you can't compare the price against a triplet which only have one ED element except for the Takahashi TOA's which have two.
I believe the FSQ130 is a 5 element with 2ED which certainly puts the price up again
Probably the popularity and lower cost of the Fsq106 was the decider ?
I did read that the Fsq106 had a lead time of 12 months back in September 2018 also. Competition, manufacturing costs ...
I believe the FSQ130 is a 5 element with 2ED which certainly puts the price up again
The FSQ-130ED is the same design as the smaller FSQ-106ED …Both and the FSQ-85ED are Petzval design .. 4 Elements (2 up front, one centre and one rear)
The FSQ-130ED is the same design as the smaller FSQ-106ED …Both and the FSQ-85ED are Petzval design .. 4 Elements (2 up front, one centre and one rear)
I think, well actually I was wrong about the FSQ-130ED ...Information about this scope doesn't describe it as Petzval. Looking at the AEC website description the FSQ-106ED is a quadruplet optical design where as you correctly pointed out that the FSQ-130ED is a five element design which further justifies the price. Learned something new.
If you have never owned a Takahashi scope you will never understand. Having owned a few Takahashi scopes (FS,FSQ's Refractors and Mewlon) the quality is still above the competition which sells for less. Plus the FSQ's are a four element scope with two ED elements so you can't compare the price against a triplet which only have one ED element except for the Takahashi TOA's which have two.
I don't necessarily disagree but, most people want a good scope and they are available for a few thousand now, and it is supply and demand
100% correct there is just something about views through a Tak
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Originally Posted by Hans Tucker
If you have never owned a Takahashi scope you will never understand. Having owned a few Takahashi scopes (FS,FSQ's Refractors and Mewlon) the quality is still above the competition which sells for less. Plus the FSQ's are a four element scope with two ED elements so you can't compare the price against a triplet which only have one ED element except for the Takahashi TOA's which have two.
There is no doubting the image quality of a Taka, but at $14k the price tag was a little too eye-watering...particularly when you consider the AP130 with Quad compressor is a little over half that price...and I dare say as good as if not better optically (though not as fast). If they were selling like hotcakes, I'm sure Taka would still be making them.
Well I have a AP 130GTX and am now a convert and devotee, just need to accessorise with the Prime Focus Field Flattener and Quad Telecompressor Corrector. Sold the FSQ-106ED to acquire this scope … and have never regretted the purchase.
Well I have a AP 130GTX and am now a convert and devotee, just need to accessorise with the Prime Focus Field Flattener and Quad Telecompressor Corrector. Sold the FSQ-106ED to acquire this scope … and have never regretted the purchase.
Sweet.
I agree the AP130GTX would give a Taka 130ED a run for its money.
I wonder if they had technical problems as well. Its probably a difficult scope to make and have perfectly collimated etc.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't the waiting time for the AP refractors ridiculous.
I have no doubt about the quality of the AP scopes, they are legendary, but most people would not like waiting for years for an order. I once put my name down on a waiting list for one of their refractors, never heard a thing after 10 years, and that was 20years ago. Never did hear anything.!!
There are a few options in 130-140mm quality refractor department capable of catering for KAF-16803 and similar chips for much less dosh and with a relatively short delivery time, like TEC, APM, CFF to name a few. On top of that, cheaper still offerings from TS and similar are being praised by many. Clearly there are few people on this planet who really had to get exquisite and very expensive 130mm f/5 astrograph with a massive corrected circle.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't the waiting time for the AP refractors ridiculous.
I have no doubt about the quality of the AP scopes, they are legendary, but most people would not like waiting for years for an order. I once put my name down on a waiting list for one of their refractors, never heard a thing after 10 years, and that was 20years ago. Never did hear anything.!!
Very true but I believe there has been a lot of production on the latest 92mm F6 Stowaway.
Won’t be parting with my AP130 and quad thingy. One day I’ll get a sensor that befits the imaging circle it produces (and a mountain top on which to site it)
