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Old 24-06-2018, 05:19 PM
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Prawn Nebula attempt

This was one hour 53 minutes again via the 30 second capture approach at 1600 iso.The scope was the 80 mm espirt on heq 5 mount unmodded D5500 nikon and although I had auto guide given the short exposure time I doubt if it was necessary.

I am trying to get stuff working mostly and am still in quantity not quality mode...so no darks flats or bias.


I did a small crop to help with a down size and only then did I notice some of the stars are off and it may be camera tilt but I am not going to worry about camera tilt until I go narrow band if ever...I plan to buy the fitting at the same time as the camera.



I thought this image would be a lot better.

It was not flash when it came out of Deep Sky Stacker as it was very pale.

But I have played around in my usual uninformed manner and now post what I have because I probably need to go to star tools or pixisite rather than a little fiddle in gimp and photo shop...and even in those programs I expect someone who knew what they were doing would produce a better result.

Still it is what it is and frankly I am happy to have all my data so I can revisit it at a later stage. For whatever reason I find the Prawn a little difficult to locate ..I guess I think it should be easy and I approach it a little on the casual side.


The image seems busy and off colour but I have to start somewhere.

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Old 24-06-2018, 05:24 PM
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sorry this is the image I meant to post..I think it is a little better.
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Old 24-06-2018, 05:31 PM
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Old 24-06-2018, 05:35 PM
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Here is the 8 inch f5 reflector version.
About one hour via 30 seconds at 1600 iso.
And I think it was unguided .. I really had too much weight with the 8 inch with two guide scopes plus lead interference was a problem also it needed additional counter weight so I hung a bag of sand off the counter weights which was far from ideal...but it was that or nothing.
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Old 24-06-2018, 05:37 PM
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Really nice Alex! I think your processing on this one is very good. The color looks good. Top image.
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Old 24-06-2018, 05:40 PM
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The 8" one is a bit too blue, otherwise good image.
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Old 24-06-2018, 06:23 PM
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Old 24-06-2018, 06:25 PM
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Really nice Alex! I think your processing on this one is very good. The color looks good. Top image.
Thanks I was not happy with it I must say...well I was but I expected a better result I guess.
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Old 24-06-2018, 06:27 PM
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The 8" one is a bit too blue, otherwise good image.
Thanks I am happy with blue its the green and purple I worry about.
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Old 24-06-2018, 06:28 PM
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Like me, in the digital era. Spent 57yrs in the film era. I calculate that I have
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Awesome! I especially love how well the widefield image looks!!! No black clipping here either!!!
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Old 25-06-2018, 12:38 PM
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Awesome! I especially love how well the widefield image looks!!! No black clipping here either!!!
Really, its time for you to move to the main forum
But I like it here☺
But thanks for your encouragement I really do appeciate it.
I would like to believe folk can look at me and think if a mug like him can get a result then they most certainly can...and of course thats is the way it is...I am old near cripple and not that clever.
So if folk see me having a go they must feel more confident.
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Old 25-06-2018, 01:13 PM
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Nice work !
I'm inspired seeing what you can do with multiple short exposures as it seems that's what I'm going to have to stick to with my equipment. Definitely given me a bench mark to aim for
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Old 25-06-2018, 04:14 PM
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Nice work !
I'm inspired seeing what you can do with multiple short exposures as it seems that's what I'm going to have to stick to with my equipment. Definitely given me a bench mark to aim for
Thank you Ryan.


Certainly short captures hide poor polar alignment and usually gives reasonably sharp photos.

I started short captures to get the job done but it really surprises me what you can produce with this approach.

I dont know if you know about dithering but if you move the frame slightly between captures, say a star width or two, this helps greatly with noise..if your polar alignment is poor you sortta do it automatically... try some darks 10 to 20, which are just shots with the lens cap on...

Try to get an hours worthof light frames and I bet you will surprise yourself.Throw out ones that are off or tell Deep Sky Stacker to stack say 80% or whatever you think the portion a good captures are...I often force it to do 100% if the captures seem reasonable.
Stacking takes a while.
I dont know if you have any processing software but you can download Gimp for free which helps improve what comes out of Deep Sky Stacker...
Go into clours and try a fiddle with levels and curves, brigtness and contrast and the colour adjustment tool...that will get you started.


Take time to get the focus right, use a mask and the blow up preview on your camera to make sure it is as good as you can get it..even take a couple of shots with the mask to examine focus.. set the camera to 30 seconds and check it after the first five minutes to make sure all is going well...dont be like me thinking it was on 30 seconds having dinner whilst ti ran only to find I had not taken it off bulb.


In the "old Days" I would often take up to 30 shots adjusting focus....not like that with these new masks but make the effort in that area.


And most of all post your efforts so we here can enjoy your work.

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Old 25-06-2018, 07:29 PM
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Thanks heaps for the tips Alex.

I have been using DSS and then straight into photoshop. I've been doing darks too. I wasn't aware of Gimp so I'll have a look into that. I had seen something about dithering somewhere but had no idea what it was. I've been using a mask as you've suggested and as you also said, spending quite a bit of time " trying " to get good focus.

I'm very new to photography in general so the learning curve has been steep to say the least. If there's one thing I have learned though it's that I thought this would be a hobby and I can clearly see it becoming an obsession
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If there's one thing I have learned though it's that I thought this would be a hobby and I can clearly see it becoming an obsession

Welcome to the obsession. I know I'm hooked!


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