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Old 13-12-2017, 12:03 PM
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Could be interesting IF it happens:

https://sputniknews.com/science/2017...nar-satellite/
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Great to see you hanging in here.
But remember these folk ( or me) don't make you angry.
Anger or irritation is your personal response and you can't blame others.

So the drift so far is we have covered the photos and the Michelin Man fallacy but the interesting issue would now seem the right to hold an opinion.
Opinion is belief.
Belief is always out of bounds...It my belief the world is 5000 years old...well that's your belief no comment.
End of story.
Opinion open for argument.
So it seems this way.
Some of you seem to feel opinion should be restricted to an expert.
Do I have to have a degree in Theology to reject one religion over another.
And if you stand by such an approach it seems that those who may be wrong must shut up.
So who do you want silenced, tarot card readers, astrologers, those damn communists, the liberals or the labour folk, how about Catholic, Jew, Muslim or Hindu.


Does anyone get it?

OK Next worry.
How did they keep warm or cold?

And how was the film carried there and back?
Could it be exposed via radiation?

When I get back I intend to look at blindmans video.
I have not looked at anything yet all the way thru but I will take the time and to change position I intend to be critical of the video, point out why I think they could be wrong ...if nothing else to Demonstrate my general cynicism.

Also anyone able to comment on how they kept warm or cool, I have often wondered about that mainly from the energy I expect it would use.

Keel calm folks and thanks again for you all participating.
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Old 13-12-2017, 03:48 PM
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Could be interesting IF it happens:

https://sputniknews.com/science/2017...nar-satellite/
Won't prove anything.
They do they don't find something the " loser" will claim photo shop.

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Old 13-12-2017, 03:51 PM
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Also anyone able to comment on how they kept warm or cool, I have often wondered about that mainly from the energy I expect it would use.

Keel calm folks and thanks again for you all participating.
Alex[/QUOTE]

Hi Alex this seems to answer that one. And that the "The astronauts’ spacesuits were designed to reflect almost 90% of the light that reaches it" answers many more questions.

https://www.spaceanswers.com/space-e...s-on-the-moon/

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Why did we not go back?

Answer. No Oil.

I would have thought some sort of base, to do science, install a big scope better still a canon that can fire something at near light speed.
Taking out a city would be like shooting a rabbit in the bottom paddock.

Mmm maybe there is one already up there.

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Old 13-12-2017, 03:56 PM
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Also anyone able to comment on how they kept warm or cool, I have often wondered about that mainly from the energy I expect it would use.

Keel calm folks and thanks again for you all participating.
Alex
Hi Alex this seems to answer that one.

https://www.spaceanswers.com/space-e...s-on-the-moon/[/QUOTE]

Thanks Peter for taking the time I will look when I get back..
Leaving Taree now.

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Old 13-12-2017, 04:00 PM
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I think $spendollar$ had a lot to do with not going back.

Well now Alex it seems we are going back to the Moon.
Maybe Trump will build a tower there...
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...k-to-the-moon/
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Old 13-12-2017, 04:02 PM
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Why did we not go back?

Answer. No Oil.

I would have thought some sort of base, to do science, install a big scope better still a canon that can fire something at near light speed.
Taking out a city would be like shooting a rabbit in the bottom paddock.

Mmm maybe there is one already up there.

Alex
UFO nuts will tell you we never went back becaus the Aliens claimed the Moon as their base and warned us not to come back.... seriously, that is the claim by many UFOnuts...

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Old 13-12-2017, 05:00 PM
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No he wants to go back to kick the aliens out as illegals and he’s going to build a wall around it.
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Old 13-12-2017, 05:53 PM
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No he wants to go back to kick the aliens out as illegals and he’s going to build a wall around it.
The wall is not going between US and Mexico now but between US and Canada to keep citizens from leaving.
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Old 13-12-2017, 05:58 PM
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UFO nuts will tell you we never went back becaus the Aliens claimed the Moon as their base and warned us not to come back.... seriously, that is the claim by many UFOnuts...

I don't know if it is just me but in trying to find hoaxer stuff I seemed to turn up all sorts of other nonsence from UFOs being there, secret bases and flat Earth...
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Old 13-12-2017, 06:16 PM
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UFO nuts will tell you we never went back becaus the Aliens claimed the Moon as their base
More likely Daneel Olivaw was already there
and simply repurposed the memories of anyone required
to cover his tracks.

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It’s more frustration than anger. Yes people are entitled to an opinion. I am also entitled to make fun of them. But it’s only when you turn your opinion into a hypothesis, design and execute an experiment that does or doesn’t support it that you should expect anyone to give a sh!t about it.
I don’t think anyone should be silenced. Especially the people making fun of idiots, and unfortunately they’re the ones who are told to be quiet these days in case the idiot’s feelings are hurt. Likewise if we silence the idiots we won’t have anyone to laugh at. It’s an ecosystem!

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Andrew
Great to see you hanging in here.
But remember these folk ( or me) don't make you angry.
Anger or irritation is your personal response and you can't blame others.

So the drift so far is we have covered the photos and the Michelin Man fallacy but the interesting issue would now seem the right to hold an opinion.
Opinion is belief.
Belief is always out of bounds...It my belief the world is 5000 years old...well that's your belief no comment.
End of story.
Opinion open for argument.
So it seems this way.
Some of you seem to feel opinion should be restricted to an expert.
Do I have to have a degree in Theology to reject one religion over another.
And if you stand by such an approach it seems that those who may be wrong must shut up.
So who do you want silenced, tarot card readers, astrologers, those damn communists, the liberals or the labour folk, how about Catholic, Jew, Muslim or Hindu.


Does anyone get it?

OK Next worry.
How did they keep warm or cold?

And how was the film carried there and back?
Could it be exposed via radiation?

When I get back I intend to look at blindmans video.
I have not looked at anything yet all the way thru but I will take the time and to change position I intend to be critical of the video, point out why I think they could be wrong ...if nothing else to Demonstrate my general cynicism.

Also anyone able to comment on how they kept warm or cool, I have often wondered about that mainly from the energy I expect it would use.

Keel calm folks and thanks again for you all participating.
Alex
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Old 13-12-2017, 06:35 PM
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It’s more frustration than anger. Yes people are entitled to an opinion. I am also entitled to make fun of them. But it’s only when you turn your opinion into a hypothesis, design and execute an experiment that does or doesn’t support it that you should expect anyone to give a sh!t about it.
I don’t think anyone should be silenced. Especially the people making fun of idiots, and unfortunately they’re the ones who are told to be quiet these days in case the idiot’s feelings are hurt. Likewise if we silence the idiots we won’t have anyone to laugh at. It’s an ecosystem!
I would get frustrated with my mate who was a tarot card reader, he actually believes they work.
It is so hard to finally accept that is how he sees the world.
There is a simple response for folk with a " theory"...
Read Karl Popper and second less have your theory.
They are not a threat, other than anti vaxers and intelligent design and you can't laugh with them as they are very dangerous.
I have been studying the Arabian Golden Age, at time when science was mostly coming from them...Its no wonder two third of stars were named by them but then one guy, a holy dude, proclaimed numbers were the work of the devil and he seemed to get traction with the mob, and that seemed to mark the start of the decline.
And there seems a parallel now in our times, think Pauline and Donald but they reflect the mobs disenchantment with intellectuals.
When I was a kid science ruled you never heard from fundamentalists...but I hear there is a trend to religious schools world wide...of course that is here say but given how folk are choosing sides and frightened by terrorism I suppose it may be correct.
And there is the net. Where you post a utube video and draw in others.
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Were they on the Moon or were not - does it change your life? No!
Actually it doesn't matter.
What matters is that NASA is sucking 52,000,000.00 USD DAILY, and they LIE a lot.
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Were they on the Moon or were not - does it change your life? No!
Actually it doesn't matter.
What matters is that NASA is sucking 52,000,000.00 USD DAILY, and they LIE a lot.
So NASA is the thing that bothers you the most about honesty and integrity in the USA at the moment?
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Old 13-12-2017, 08:55 PM
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Were they on the Moon or were not - does it change your life? No!
Actually it doesn't matter.
What matters is that NASA is sucking 52,000,000.00 USD DAILY, and they LIE a lot.
Hi Blindman
I arrived in Sydney one hour ago.
After watering my dead plants I started to watch the video.
I was 30 minutes in and the sound went funny such that I could not hear anything but garbled voice.
I could dee old mates puss and some shiela and from there I jumped thru and it seemed the same.
All I can comment upon is the first thirty minutes.
No meat I am afraid.
He sounded a reasonable fella but as I said no meat.
Frankly if that's the best you can do, assuming it was simply an interview and no photos accompanied by comment, it simply does not cut it.
There was nothing.
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Old 13-12-2017, 09:43 PM
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Were they on the Moon or were not - does it change your life? No!
Actually it doesn't matter.
What matters is that NASA is sucking 52,000,000.00 USD DAILY, and they LIE a lot.
Extraordinary claims need evidence.
You can't accuse them of lieing and simply walk away. That's not cricket old chap.

Leave the Moon landings out of it, and tell me what do they do that you can say " and they lie a lot".

And where do you get your figures from.
And do you have any link explaining their spending.

And thanks for participating in the thread.
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Old 13-12-2017, 10:09 PM
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Too tired for explaining.
I have spent hours & hours viewing science videos / news & "conspiracy"
channels / videos. You have to decide for yourself to believe or not to believe
NASA discoveries / projects / etc.
Only when you research both sides, you see what is garbage and what is or may be true.
In some cases NASA is treating us as an complete idiots.
Just sayin'
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