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Old 27-06-2017, 09:56 PM
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Mike, people often change scopes when they are not really happy with them and are continuously looking for a decent one. Perhaps not all TAKs are as good as the legend holds...
Ha ha, yeah maybe!

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Did you know? FSQs are actually crafted by Roland, that's why he has little time left for making Starfires and thus we have a long waiting list for AP scopes...
Really??? no, I didn't know that you sure? I know Orion Optics UK make ASA their mirrors for their Fast N series Newts...who would'a thunk it...?
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Old 27-06-2017, 10:00 PM
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Why didn't you get a FSQ130 Mike? Has a huge 110mm imaging circle and the reducer (down to F/3.6) may even be able to handle the FLI16803 So much disposable imaging circle at F/5
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Old 27-06-2017, 11:00 PM
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Why didn't you get a FSQ130 Mike? Has a huge 110mm imaging circle and the reducer (down to F/3.6) may even be able to handle the FLI16803 So much disposable imaging circle at F/5
Funnily enough I did actually get permission from SWMBO to buy one of those ...but keeping calm and letting logic and sense prevail, I wanted the luxury of having two scopes, one high res narrow field and the other wide field, mounted together, I really didn't want to have to dismount the AG12 to use the wide field scope and I was preeeetty sure even the tough old NJP would have struggled under that load with the AG12, FSQ130, FLI16803, CFW-5-7, SXVH694, SXFW, Atlas focuser, MMOAG and two lodestars



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Old 28-06-2017, 08:11 AM
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FLI-50100 would give even wider fov...just saying
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Old 28-06-2017, 08:16 AM
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Mike no, blame me for the clouds. Something far more exotic, rare and with a pedigree coming this way ... a Santel 9".
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Old 28-06-2017, 08:23 AM
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Psst!..an FSQ106EDX4 and custom mounting rings and NJP mounting plate just arrived.... shhhhhh! don't tell the clouds

Photos added...including with beer

The scope was very well double boxed with no sign of any damage at all on the outer box so I am sure all will be well set.

This scope is a beast!

The custom rings and mounting plates are excellent and very well made, this will allow me to mount the FSQ and FLI16803 as per the ED80 in THIS photo, the FLI will be on the FSQ and the SXVR-H694 will be on the AG12

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Looks good. You'll have fun with it. What's the offset for with the dovetail?
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Old 28-06-2017, 08:30 AM
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Lovely Mike! Yeah I saw Paul's FSQ go up for sale, what a coincidence!

At least you'll finally get some decent images...
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Old 28-06-2017, 08:51 AM
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Looks good. You'll have fun with it. What's the offset for with the dovetail?
Weeelll...if you actually read posts you would know Marc

Check out the last line above and the link, it should be obvious

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Old 28-06-2017, 09:08 AM
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At least you'll finally get some decent images...
...yeah I know ...but many things are gunna look so small in that whopping great field....
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Old 28-06-2017, 09:27 AM
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...yeah I know ...but many things are gunna look so small in that whopping great field....
Geez, don't take a photo of yerself with it then - you'll be PeeWee Mike, not Strongman Mike.
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Old 28-06-2017, 09:43 AM
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Finally converted to Takahashi eh - good stuff!! You won't regret it! BUT, where's the usual picture of your big grinning face holding the baby??
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Old 28-06-2017, 09:52 AM
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Weeelll...if you actually read posts you would know Marc

Check out the last line above and the link, it should be obvious

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ah... I see. Looks complicated. Couldn't you load it on top of the AG12? Everything in line. Easier to balance too. Your mount should take the extra length.
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Old 28-06-2017, 11:17 AM
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ah... I see. Looks complicated. Couldn't you load it on top of the AG12? Everything in line. Easier to balance too. Your mount should take the extra length.
Much easier to have'em tandem, plus mounting on top would require much more counterbalance...I already have some trepidations about the load on the NJP

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Old 28-06-2017, 11:21 AM
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Finally converted to Takahashi eh - good stuff!! You won't regret it! BUT, where's the usual picture of your big grinning face holding the baby??
Yes, I thought about it.. but went with the beer instead....more subtle

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Old 28-06-2017, 11:25 AM
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Yes, it's definitely much better to keep telescopes as close as possible to the mount head to reduce inertial moment arm. AP has a nice explanation about that: http://www.astro-physics.com/product...ze_Guiding.pdf
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Old 28-06-2017, 11:41 AM
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Much easier to have'em tandem, plus mounting on top would require much more counterbalance...I already have some trepidations about the load on the NJP

Mike
If mounting is really such an issue maybe you should just give it to me with my mount that I'm completely under mounting with my setup
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Old 28-06-2017, 11:45 AM
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Didn't know your FSQ drinks beer, ale, bitter or pilsner?
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Old 28-06-2017, 11:55 AM
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Yes, it's definitely much better to keep telescopes as close as possible to the mount head to reduce inertial moment arm. AP has a nice explanation about that: http://www.astro-physics.com/product...ze_Guiding.pdf
Exactly my thoughts

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If mounting is really such an issue maybe you should just give it to me with my mount that I'm completely under mounting with my setup
Ok Col, Ill consider your request....for a few years and then give you an answer

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Didn't know your FSQ drinks beer, ale, bitter or pilsner?
Cranking IPA: THIS description sums it up perfectly the "where did that beer disappear to" description is right on the money...terrible really it just slides down faaar too easily!
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Old 28-06-2017, 01:52 PM
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Yes, it's definitely much better to keep telescopes as close as possible to the mount head to reduce inertial moment arm. AP has a nice explanation about that: http://www.astro-physics.com/product...ze_Guiding.pdf
Yep, agree with bigger counterweights closer to the RA but I thought the FSQ would be like a pimple on top of the AG12/camera combo. Although if you run out of shaft or roof space then side by side makes sense. Just fiddly to get right in all sky areas IMO that's all. In an obs when you have the time to fine tune things then ok.
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Old 28-06-2017, 01:57 PM
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How about building an array of FSQ106's as a counter balance system? ASA got it down pat Strongman can follow in their footsteps.
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