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Old 21-10-2014, 10:31 PM
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NGC 253 - now completed (Full Frame version added)

Managed to add some colour data to the original luminance on the weekend. I didn't bother gathering more luminance - 3.25 hours was enough - this galaxy is bright! Nor did I do any additional luminance processing - just RGB.

Colour renditions of this object vary considerably so I just tried to stay as true to the RGB as I could. I may revisit the processing but I'm rather pleased with this result.

Full resolution - cropped for effect (0.59"/pixel):
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(This is my first colour image through the RC360 too )
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Old 21-10-2014, 10:44 PM
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That's a great first light image for the new scope, Marcus. Congrats!
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Old 21-10-2014, 10:59 PM
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Ok, where's the mega data

Looks good to me Marcus! Did you use decon on the stars, I am thinking so, they look quite natural and I can never get Astroart to do that for me

Personally I think it looks even better viewed at about 67% in my browser though, I know it is your mantra and you will fire brimstone at me...but full res at all costs is not necessary (IMHO) Also, if you had more FOV why did you crop it so tight? Love to see this galaxy with just a little bit of space around it to give it context...shows of the details well like this though of course

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Old 21-10-2014, 11:17 PM
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That's a great first light image for the new scope, Marcus. Congrats!
Cheers Rick!

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Ok, where's the mega data

Looks good to me Marcus! Did you use decon on the stars, I am thinking so, they look quite natural and I can never get Astroart to do that for me

Personally I think it looks even better viewed at about 67% in my browser though, I know it is your mantra and you will fire brimstone at me...
67% is missing the point Mike - revel in the detail ... run through it with bare feet ... roll around in it .... MMMMMmmmmmm! Also, as I always say - if you've got it, flaunt it!

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...Also, if you had more FOV why did you crop it so tight? Love to see this galaxy with just a little bit of space around it to give it context...shows of the details well like this though of course
I cropped because I liked the up close and personal aspect. I'll post the full frame later ... promise!

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Great work
Cheers mate! Pretty chuffed.
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Old 22-10-2014, 12:05 AM
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Outstanding image Marcus, one of the best Silver Coins I've seen.

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Old 22-10-2014, 12:12 AM
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OMG...Iddy biddy little galaxies splattered all over the place.
Great first (LRGB) light. Enjoy the toy!
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Old 22-10-2014, 02:25 AM
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goodness marcus in the hi res cropped, looking at the centre it looks like everything is being "sucked" downward into an invisible hole
the central section looks lower than than the surrounding spiral
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Old 22-10-2014, 06:14 AM
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Hi Marcus,
That's turned out perfectly.
You have shown extraordinary detail.
I hope to see many more of your pictures -
what's your next target? ( NGC 1365 is up high now. )

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Old 22-10-2014, 07:44 AM
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Wow! that's just stunning. What an incredible first light image.
Congrats on fine tuning your system to such a high level. Perfect processing. I think the colours are perfect as well. Often shown as no blue in the outer areas and that does not seem right seeing as virtually every other galaxy does.

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Old 22-10-2014, 09:52 AM
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That's top shelf stuff. Love the detail. Well done.
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Old 22-10-2014, 10:27 AM
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Cheers mate! Pretty chuffed.
You should be
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Old 22-10-2014, 10:31 AM
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wow amazing detail, congratulations Marcus!

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Old 22-10-2014, 11:03 AM
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I'll be honest and say I never thought you would get that OS scope sorted. Not because I thought you were not able to, but because I thought it might have a fault; and I am not the only person to think that too. Working through issues myself with my meagre RC I can appreciate the level of frustration that comes with bug hunting and getting things just right. Not to mention the time it takes to get collimation near perfect. Nearly there myself but am truthfully glad to see you have it working cleanly.

Having said that, this is a fine example of persistence pays off.

Great colour, detail and in your face. Scale is great. Though I would prefer to see a wide crop of the area.

Only one thing I reckon it needs is more colour data. You have some colour noise in the background that is in my opinion spoiling a totally fabulous image. Another half a night should see you right I think.

Well done
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Old 22-10-2014, 12:14 PM
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Ok That's a nice image.
I been trying to locate it for weeks and Last week I took a wide field shot and I think I got it in frame at 100mm. But it was so small.
How big is NGC253 in an ED80?
Is it pointless trying to image it if it's only a centimetre across?
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Old 22-10-2014, 12:23 PM
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Ok That's a nice image.
I been trying to locate it for weeks and Last week I took a wide field shot and I think I got it in frame at 100mm. But it was so small.
How big is NGC253 in an ED80?
Is it pointless trying to image it if it's only a centimetre across?
Here ya go Peter

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike20...81518/original

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Old 22-10-2014, 12:39 PM
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Outstanding image Marcus, one of the best Silver Coins I've seen.

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OMG...Iddy biddy little galaxies splattered all over the place.
Great first (LRGB) light. Enjoy the toy!
Yes indeed - the full frame is even better for faint fuzzies (coming soon). Thanks David!

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goodness marcus in the hi res cropped, looking at the centre it looks like everything is being "sucked" downward into an invisible hole
the central section looks lower than than the surrounding spiral
pat
Yes, it does look something like that - that's why I like the immersive full res look! Thanks Pat!

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Hi Marcus,
That's turned out perfectly.
You have shown extraordinary detail.
I hope to see many more of your pictures -
what's your next target? ( NGC 1365 is up high now. )

cheers
Allan
Thanks a lot Allan! I hope to be able to take many more pictures! Sydney weather sucks though so don't expect them to come thick & fast!

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Wow! that's just stunning. What an incredible first light image.
Congrats on fine tuning your system to such a high level. Perfect processing. I think the colours are perfect as well. Often shown as no blue in the outer areas and that does not seem right seeing as virtually every other galaxy does.

Greg.
Very kind of you Greg, thanks! Yes, the RGB screamed blue at me - no clue how others process it to show so little.

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That's top shelf stuff. Love the detail. Well done.
Cheers Rod, glad you like it!

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wow amazing detail, congratulations Marcus!

cheers

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Thanks Rusty!

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I'll be honest and say I never thought you would get that OS scope sorted. Not because I thought you were not able to, but because I thought it might have a fault; and I am not the only person to think that too. Working through issues myself with my meagre RC I can appreciate the level of frustration that comes with bug hunting and getting things just right. Not to mention the time it takes to get collimation near perfect. Nearly there myself but am truthfully glad to see you have it working cleanly.

Having said that, this is a fine example of persistence pays off.

Great colour, detail and in your face. Scale is great. Though I would prefer to see a wide crop of the area.

Only one thing I reckon it needs is more colour data. You have some colour noise in the background that is in my opinion spoiling a totally fabulous image. Another half a night should see you right I think.

Well done
Thanks Paul. Full frame coming soon. I was never worried about the quality of the optics after initial tests near the beginning of the year and I published most of those tests. This image should silence any skeptics!! As I said all along - there was a problem with the idiot using it .... and the lousy weather .... and the annoying full time job! You're right though - persistence pays off and you seem to have plenty of that!

Well, no image is perfect but I will rarely do more than 90 to 120 mins in R, G or B. If I wasn't so time poor and the weather was better I may gather more data - it always makes processing easier. I'll never be a megadata man though!
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Old 22-10-2014, 02:03 PM
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Hi, Marcus,

That's very sharp indeed.

Congrats,
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Old 22-10-2014, 02:24 PM
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Wonderful image scale there Marcus, the detail is incredible. Looking at the full res it even seems you could sharpen it a bit further
Nice colours too, I havent imaged NGC253 myself so don't know how blue the raw data would suggest, but it looks great!

Congratulations on first RGB light
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Old 22-10-2014, 02:41 PM
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I'm sitting here at work and have had a few looks at this image over the day Marcus and I just have to say... friggin hell it's good

Oh and I agree re the blue.

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Old 22-10-2014, 04:11 PM
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wow! that's one incredibly detailed image of NGC253.

The resolution and detail is incredible - have seen way less detail from 20" RC scopes.

One of the most detailed amateur images of NGC253 I have seen.

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