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01-07-2018, 09:08 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sydney
Posts: 1,830
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To GST or Not
Hi,
GST or not, it seems that is was released. 200 USD of stuff from Baader
UPS Tracking
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Local Time
Activity
Botany, Australia
01/07/2018
16:17
Arrival Scan
01/07/2018
9:39
Your package is being processed at the clearance agency. / Your package was released by the clearing agency.
01/07/2018
7:42
Your package is being processed at the clearance agency.
Honolulu, HI, United States
30/06/2018
10:24
Departure Scan
30/06/2018
7:19
Arrival Scan
30/06/2018
14:59
The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / Your package was released by the clearing agency.
Louisville, KY, United States
30/06/2018
4:44
Departure Scan
Louisville, KY, United States
29/06/2018
22:43
Arrival Scan
Koeln, Germany
29/06/2018
22:00
Departure Scan
29/06/2018
0:37
Export Scan
29/06/2018
0:05
Arrival Scan
Muenchen, Germany
28/06/2018
23:00
Departure Scan
28/06/2018
20:56
Arrival Scan
Kirchheim, Germany
28/06/2018
20:50
Departure Scan
28/06/2018
20:34
Origin Scan
Germany
28/06/2018
17:26
Order Processed: Ready for UPS
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01-07-2018, 10:13 PM
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No. I am a meat popsicle.
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Townsville
Posts: 598
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zuts
Hi,
GST or not, it seems that is was released. 200 USD of stuff from Baader...
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Very happy to see that. Well done
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01-07-2018, 10:34 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sydney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyG
Very happy to see that. Well done
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Now that I look at it it seems it was released from Hawaii . So I'll keep you posted as it arrived in Botany on the 1st.
Cheers
Paul
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02-07-2018, 11:03 AM
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Unregistered User
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 1,164
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I think that the order date is what is important, not the date it crosses the Australian border. But I could be wrong...
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02-07-2018, 12:05 PM
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Local Korean Millennial
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleville
Posts: 2,063
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I've just been told that if I imported something over $500, I'll attract an additional $200 in import cost. This seems somewhat dubious, is there any legitimacy to this statement?
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02-07-2018, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Warragul, Vic
Posts: 4,493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by that_guy
I've just been told that if I imported something over $500, I'll attract an additional $200 in import cost. This seems somewhat dubious, is there any legitimacy to this statement?
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Told by who? If you were told by an official ask them to point you to the appropriate information on a government website.
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02-07-2018, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by that_guy
I've just been told that if I imported something over $500, I'll attract an additional $200 in import cost. This seems somewhat dubious, is there any legitimacy to this statement?
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Nothing I have read on Govt websites indicates that is the case.
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02-07-2018, 01:07 PM
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Local Korean Millennial
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleville
Posts: 2,063
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A retailer contacted me via PM about my wanted ad for an ED60. I won't say who but I thought that statement was bogus. Also, I feel like a retailer contacting someone regarding a wanted ad defeats the whole purpose of a wanted ad. If I wanted to buy new I'd buy new, but I posted the ad to get second hand!
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02-07-2018, 01:16 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Brisbane
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I hope the retailer is public spirited enough to post that information here. It would be of great interest to many of us.
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02-07-2018, 01:24 PM
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Local Korean Millennial
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleville
Posts: 2,063
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I've replied back asking for documentations for proof for this "extra import cost". For a product that is $500, a $200 "import cost" + 10% tax is 50% surcharge!
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02-07-2018, 03:19 PM
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Local Korean Millennial
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleville
Posts: 2,063
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Quote:
Government levied charges (not local these are a Federal Government requirement) - they are: Airline entry fee, Australian airport gateway fee, Airline documentation fee, Customs Entry fee, Courier from airline to Customs cost, Airport surcharge. Currently these stand at $187, plus you get charged Gst and you already know this is 10%.
So if you could find a product at say:
1. Product example - let's say it is US $ 600
2. Insured shipment to Australia - the example I will use is a William Optics small refractor say 70mm aperture - (range US$90-100) thereby say US$ 90
3. Sub Total US$ 690
4. at today's Westpac Telegraphic transfer exchange rate of 0.7012
5. Conversion to AUD $ 984.03
6. Import costs $ 187
7. Gst $ 98.40
8. Total $ 1,269.43
9. You may also get charged local delivery as well, but this is dependant on whom within Customs picks up your project, some charge this and some don't.
This is merely an example. I get a lot of people that "think" these costs are not all real - and think they can get away with just the Gst, or get away without the Gst, which you can't. They get a surprise when they receive the goods and Customs send them a request for Customs Agency nomination for them to send the import documentation. Plus they do "not" have an Australian warranty as they bought the unit overseas and the warranty applies for the location of purchasing, it's always the customer's call whether to take this risk.
I have seen a hundred and one times where customers get caught with a string of extra costs and are very upset.
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This is the reply. Ive googled top to bottom about this government levied charge and havent found anything to back it up. This is the link ive been usi g to explain the new tax with no mention of import duty for less than $1000. If anyone has any proof that this fee exists that would be fantastic. But the retailer is yet to provide an official document explaining this fee.
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02-07-2018, 03:51 PM
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Novichok test rabbit
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere in the cosmos...
Posts: 10,388
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Gee, that's transparent WHO it is
Anyway...
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02-07-2018, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Killara, Sydney
Posts: 4,147
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Well what the government required isn't the only possible way to do this - it does not have to be done by the vendor - it can be handled by the carrier handing the delivery into Australia.
I've just received Import Declarations from FedEx that clearly state what was imported, when, the value, the customs duty, the GST amount, AND the AQIS entry charges,
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a letter advising this stuff has to be retained for 5 years from date of entry.
And better, Fedex sends it by email as soon as the shipment clears customs, quarantine and GST is paid.
It strongly suggests order whatever you like from wherever in the US and have FEDEX handle it efficiently - including the damn GST - not the vendor.
For small items the number of carriers is far, far smaller than the number of possible vendors and in this respect the Aus Government clearly didn't think of this solution.
And there's even one better solution - route ALL the foreign stuff through AusPost and have them collect the duties and GST. Bleeding obvious IMHO - all without annoying anyone outside our borders. It would also give AusPost a reason to exist.
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02-07-2018, 04:49 PM
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Dazed and confused
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,253
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That retailer is talking nonsense.
The gst for goods under $1000 is charged and supposedly collected by the RETAILER from overseas who has over $75000 worth of sales to Australia
There is NO customs fee at all Name and shame the so called retailer because I would NEVER want to do business with someone who is obviously trying to cash in or just has no clue pm me if you want. I dont want to do business with them period.
Last edited by RB; 02-07-2018 at 04:52 PM.
Reason: Deleted offensive language
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03-07-2018, 09:22 AM
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Novichok test rabbit
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere in the cosmos...
Posts: 10,388
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Said dealer has been cashing in on the gullible for a LONG time.
Named and shamed MANY times already. Seems to not stick like a teflon turd.
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03-07-2018, 03:27 PM
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Dazed and confused
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LewisM
Said dealer has been cashing in on the gullible for a LONG time.
Named and shamed MANY times already. Seems to not stick like a teflon turd.
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pm mate i have no idea
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03-07-2018, 03:33 PM
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Novichok test rabbit
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere in the cosmos...
Posts: 10,388
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Join the dots
Said dealer has been throwing out this BS spiel for YEARS in an effort to disuade people from importing themselves etc. It's all shinola.
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03-07-2018, 03:35 PM
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Local Korean Millennial
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleville
Posts: 2,063
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I'll just outright say who it is, most people seem to know who it is and those who don't should know to stay well clear. It's astromelb (astronomyalive) who contacted me wanting to sell me the 72ED and even tried to sell me the $1500 CF triplet 80mm ED when I just wanted a second hand 60mm ED thats third the price. I also don't like being contacted unsolicited by a retailer via pm.
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03-07-2018, 03:40 PM
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Novichok test rabbit
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere in the cosmos...
Posts: 10,388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by that_guy
I'll just outright say who it is, most people seem to know who it is and those who don't should know to stay well clear. It's astromelb (astronomyalive) who contacted me wanting to sell me the 72ED and even tried to sell me the $1500 CF triplet 80mm ED when I just wanted a second hand 60mm ED thats third the price. I also don't like being contacted unsolicited by a retailer via pm.
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There ya go
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03-07-2018, 07:35 PM
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Dazed and confused
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,253
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Got ya LOL
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