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Old 08-11-2011, 06:38 PM
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The D800 is vapourware, though, Greg. That is to say, that its specifications are based on rumour.

They all are.

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Old 08-11-2011, 06:53 PM
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Yeh I agree - for landscapes I really notice the difference when trying to use my 24-105, as opposed to a wider angle (17-70, or 10-22). Especially on a crop sensor.

Just had a look on ebay - some 5D Mark II bodies are around the $2k mark. Not sure what warranty you'd get there as opposed to buying from DPP.

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DDP might be the way to go Mike,$2399.I think I'd rather walk into a building to pick this up-Its a large amount to spend-but well worth it.

Paul,has a good point-the 5DIII may not be as good in certain areas that we want-noise.This 5DII camera has the runs on the board.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:32 PM
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The same could have been said for the Mark II. No dice.

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Paul,has a good point-the 5DIII may not be as good in certain areas that we want-noise.This 5DII camera has the runs on the board.
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:18 PM
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They keep upping the ISO of new sensors and the noise gets better.

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Old 08-11-2011, 11:57 PM
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I'm very curious what the next step beyond the 5D mk II will bring for astrophotographers.

Canon research are uber secretive about what they do to protect their product patents, but they do listen very carefully to what features specialist photographers - like astrophotograpers - might need from a camera.

I don't expect they will offer a 20 Da type camera, but I wouldn't be surprised to find they do some things in firmware or software that really extend the capabilities of the hardware they utilise. We talked a bit about low noise and a CCD's full well counts and blooming - and you could see a light go on in their eyes. A group of very smart people hadn't previously thought about HDR in low light before; my gut tells me they may have intuited a trick or two that might minimise blooming and greatly enhance HDR processing. Fingers crossed - but it was simply me waxing lyrical to folk pondering what next; something may come of it or naught - never can tell with scientists!
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:23 AM
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Just have a look at that Pentax camera that moves the internal chip at the sidereal rate, based on a GPS sensor that knows your location!

A tripod astrophotographers dream - up to 4 minute exposures (depending on your FL obviously) with no star trails!
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:57 PM
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Which Pentax camera is that Mike?

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Old 09-11-2011, 05:54 PM
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Greg its a sit on top in flash sho for the k-5 & k-r
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:28 AM
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And they say using your mobile phone while driving is risky...



seriously I have a new 7D and its great for birding but i am also anxiously awaiting the onslaught of second hand 5D mk2 s in a few months

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*if* Canon ever release a 5DIII with the new 1DX sensor, there's not much to indicate that the real low-light performance will be significantly better than the 5DII. the pixels are just slightly bigger so a very small gain there.. but main improvement will be software algorithms etc which you can do in post-processing of a RAW file from any camera. that's the main reason high ISO performance looks better than earlier models.

i did a test the other day of a friend's 5D original vs my 5DII. at ISO1600 and ISO3200, her original 5D showed less random (shot) noise than my 5DII. not surprising really as the pixels are much bigger. it had more hot pixels but that can be easily taken care of with dark frames, and the 5D has amp glow in the corner which is a bummer.. other than that pixel size rules as it has to.

5DII increased fill factor, so some real gain there but i don't believe there's much more that can be gained in a theoretical sense. sensors have pretty much maxed out what can be done in terms of converting photons to electrons, so you can predict real low-light performance as soon as you know what megapixel count they choose.

what would get me really excited is if canon chose to release a full-frame camera with ~10 megapixels, like the Nikon D3/D700. anything with more pixels than the 5DII doesn't get me excited at all for low light work, except that the second-hand market will look attractive for those wanting 5DIIs!

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I bought a new 5D MkII recently off eBay and couldn't be happier. At a little over $2000 I thought I would carry the warranty myself even though the vendor offers a three year warranty i.e. sent back to Melbourne. Having owned a 300D, 350D (both sold), 400D (given to my son) and 450D (currently a backup and general use camera) the next logical step was the 5D MKII for AI with my refractors. I have to add that not one of the Canons has ever given the slightest bit of trouble in the past and hopefully my latest purchase will follow suit.

The 5D looks huge in comparison to the 450D but feels perfectly balanced and is a delight to use. I have bought a couple of second hand EF lenses (I didn't realise thet the EF-S lenses from my previous Canons don't fit the 5D) to get familiar with the 5D so as not to outlay a whole lot of money on new ones. I did buy a flash (again thinking that the 5D came with a flash), a Canon 580EX II, again off eBay and at a substantial saving over local vendors.
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Old 13-11-2011, 03:37 PM
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Welcome to the fold, Steve.

I got mine in one of the first shipments to the country (ordered the day it was released) and couldn't be happier!

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