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Old 28-06-2011, 09:33 PM
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Globulars 27/6/11

Another clear night last night and a chance to chase down some of the globulars in Scorpius, Sagittarius and Ophiuchus. Armed with Uranometria and some printed DSS images I go looking for the faint ones. I have found that even when I know I'm in the right place, knowing which bit of faint fuzz is the target GC is challenging and I found the DSS images very helpful. There is no way I could tell otherwise and how anyone identified some of these as possible GCs in the first place is utterly beyond me. I intermittently rewarded my patience with some bright GC as well. Fortunately the transparency was little better than it has been for some time. Thanks for reading.

Telescope 410mm (16”) f4.9 tri-dob reflector
Eyepieces 28mm UWAN, 17,13,9 mm Naglers, Paracorr
Navigation: Night Sky Observer’s Guide (NSOG), Uranometria Vol 2
Data from SEDS list of galactic GCs http://seds.org/messier/xtra/supp/mw_gc.html

The plan – globulars around Scorpius, Sagittarius and Ophiuchus, especially some of the fainter ones.

2030

Seeing good 2/5
Transparency fair – some high altitude moisture – 6th mag stars in Coal Sack just discernible. The Emu is obvious but with a little less contrast than usual

ESO 452-SC11 GC in Scorpius
16:39:25.45 -28:23:55.3
Vmag 12 Dia 1.2’

175X Really need the DSS image of this GC to be able to pick it. Very faint behind a few faint foreground stars forming a NW-SE line across the front of the GC. Size is hard to estimate due to faintness

Terzan 3 GC in Scorpius
16:28:40.08 -35:21:12.
Vmag 12.00 Dia 3.0’

175X Again hard to pick without DSS image as there is so much fuzzy stuff in the field. There is a foreground star in front of a faint halo which could be about 2’ across.

NGC 6266 Messier 62 GC in Ophiuchus
17:01:12.80 -30:06:49.
Vmag 6.45 Dia 15.0

175X A stunning, bright GC. Quite an interesting shape – a strong core is more to the south of the GC and the northern part of the GC widens away from the core so that the GC looks a bit like a wide tailed comet. Many resolvable stars. To the west is dark nebula Barnard 241

http://spider.seds.org/ngc/ngcdss.cgi?obj=NGC!6266!=!M62&r=17: 01.2&d=-30:07&e=J2000&h=16.92&w=16.92&f=GIF &c=none

NGC 6304 GC in Ophiuchus
17:14:32.25 -29:27:43.3
Vmag 8.22 Dia 8.0

175X Quite a bright GC, well concentrated with grainy texture of stars on the edge of resolution. The core looks elongated slightly NW-SE. No strands of stars or haze pulled out from GC. Looks about 4’ across and the core about 2’

http://spider.seds.org/ngc/ngcdss.cgi?obj=NGC!6304&r=17:14.5&d =-29:28&e=J2000&h=15&w=15&f=GIF&c=non e

Terzan 4 GC in Scorpius
17:30:39.00 -31:35:43.9
Vmag 16.00 Dia. 0.7

175X Very faint and small (30”) glow behind faint star.

Terzan 2 GC in Scorpius
17:27:33.10 -30:48:08.4
Vmag14.29 Dia. 0.6

175X Near a little trapezium of stars, this is a very faint glow with some foreground stars in front of it.

NGC 6624 GC in Sagittarius
18:23:40.51 -30:21:39.7
Vmag 7.87 Dia. 8.8

175X A beautiful little GC with marked core, very regular round halo and some distinct stars over the halo. The brightness of the core diminishes abruptly to the soft halo. Looks about 4’ across.

http://spider.seds.org/ngc/ngcdss.cgi?obj=NGC!6624&r=18:23.7&d =-30:22&e=J2000&h=15&w=15&f=GIF&c=non e

Visits to a few bright favourites make a nice end to the evening.
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Old 28-06-2011, 10:09 PM
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Nicely done Paddy. You had your work cut out with some of them. Such a busy area of the sky. Your description of M62 tends to give the tell-tale signs of some interstellar dust obstructing its light. Lovely descriptions.
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Old 28-06-2011, 11:05 PM
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Terzans? Now you're showing off Patrick!

Would that I could add those to my globular cluster list. Maybe I'll have to join you for a dim globular night sometime...

Great report!

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Old 28-06-2011, 11:15 PM
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Good ol' "Ophi" - underrated constellation!

Hmm... methinks yours is bigger than mine judging by some of these!
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Old 29-06-2011, 11:26 AM
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Nicely done Paddy. You had your work cut out with some of them. Such a busy area of the sky. Your description of M62 tends to give the tell-tale signs of some interstellar dust obstructing its light. Lovely descriptions.
Thanks Alex. Good point about the dust. From the look of the chart, Barnard 241 skirts around the southern part of M62, so this would be what causes that odd appearance

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Terzans? Now you're showing off Patrick!

Would that I could add those to my globular cluster list. Maybe I'll have to join you for a dim globular night sometime...

Great report!

Cheers -
'Twould be an honour Rob. You actually got me started on faint GCs with your posts on Ruprecht 106 and E3. Border Stargaze might be a good opportunity.

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Good ol' "Ophi" - underrated constellation!

Hmm... methinks yours is bigger than mine judging by some of these!
I think they are at about the limit of my 16"
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Terzans! Go Paddy! I though I was doing OK tonight getting a couple of IC Planetaries!

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Nice work hunting those tough nuts down! 3 Terzans and an Eso, impressive haul.

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Great stuff Paddy,

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Old 30-06-2011, 03:39 PM
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Show off Paddy.

Thank you for the wonderfully descriptive report. NGC 6624 sounds and looks very interesting so I have put it on my hit list.

Whenever I see globs now all I can think of is $$diamonds$$. I just discovered that white dwarf stars have diamond cores. So twinkle twinkle little star song is write on the money. Hahaha, litertally.. get it- I just made a funny: money - diamonds. Get it. All right..., I'll just do this to myself .

Apologies for being scarce in the obs forum lately, I am catching up reading through obs reports that I've missed in the last few weeks. I have an obs report of my own to write up when I finally get my act together.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:44 PM
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Thanks Suzy. I may have started another list ticking obsession about how many globular clusters I can observe. I blame Rob.

I didn't know that about white dwarfs. Certainly most of the globs evoke that kind if image.

Good to see that you're giving Jen a run in the smiley dept.

Look forward to your report - you have been missed.
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Girls like their emoticons Paddy.
I'm touched that I have been missed... aaaawwww. Thank you.

Paddy, regarding white dwarfs and diamonds, here is some very interesting reading.
http://www.spacetoday.org/DeepSpace/...hiteDwarf.html

The star named "Lucy" is
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And! It is viewable in telescopes. Paddy, I would love for you to take a look at this and tell me what you see. Or anyone else for that matter. The catalogue no. of the star is given in the link.


Also, read this..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3492919.stm


And then there's the thread I started on it; a couple of very interesting posts from Carl explaining some things about them....
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...y+sky+diamonds
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That's a challenge issued to you Paddy in my above post.


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Thanks for the links Suzy - very interesting.
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