Go Back   IceInSpace > Images > Deep Space

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 20-02-2021, 10:53 AM
Nikolas's Avatar
Nikolas (Nik)
Dazed and confused

Nikolas is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,264
Carina Widefield L-Extreme

Took this with the Skywatcher ED 72 and 0.85 reducer

Processed this in Astropixel Processor, separated the channels into HA and O3 and recombined them
Further to that In Photoshop I tweaked the image then pasted as a luminosity mask the HA which did a great job of taming the stars and enhancing the nebulosity. Did a further starnett++ and created a star mask, worked on the nebulosity of the starless image then recombined the stars in linear dodge mode. Gabriela stands out more which is what my aim was as I didn't have the .85 reducer last time I imaged this.
26 x 300 secs asi zwo 294mc with the Optolong L-Extreme
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (HOO3-times.jpg)
200.9 KB98 views

Last edited by Nikolas; 20-02-2021 at 03:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20-02-2021, 11:14 AM
JA
.....

JA is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,961
Great Image Nik
Looks like you're on a winner with the masking and the teeny weeny stars.

Best
JA
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20-02-2021, 11:32 AM
Nikolas's Avatar
Nikolas (Nik)
Dazed and confused

Nikolas is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,264
Thanks JA it's learning process but double the processing times I do enjoy it when I have the time.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 20-02-2021, 12:57 PM
Astronut07's Avatar
Astronut07 (Ben)
Registered User

Astronut07 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 147
Nik

Fantastic image with great details
I’ll have to try splitting channels as you have done as I have Zwo 1600mc & l extreme filter

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:07 PM
Robert_T's Avatar
Robert_T
aiming for 2nd Halley's

Robert_T is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,959
Beautiful nick. Great processing. You've really brought out the structure in the nebula while retaining a natural looks especially with the stars.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 20-02-2021, 03:37 PM
AdamJL
Registered User

AdamJL is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,100
WOW!!! One of the best Carina shots I've seen.
You'll have to (please!) write up a full walkthrough of how you did that edit. OSC in dual-band and this is the result? You're a master
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 20-02-2021, 03:45 PM
Nikolas's Avatar
Nikolas (Nik)
Dazed and confused

Nikolas is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,264
Not sure why the multi quote is not working but thanks everyone.
As for the workflow I'm still experimenting with the process but it's getting better.
Much of the stacking and channel separation is done in Astropixel Processor, same goes for the recombination of colours. The rest is done as described in Photoshop stretching and layer masks etc.



When I do find time I may make a youtube video but being a busy teacher that's on the backburner for now.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 20-02-2021, 03:50 PM
Astronut07's Avatar
Astronut07 (Ben)
Registered User

Astronut07 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikolas View Post
Not sure why the multi quote is not working but thanks everyone.
As for the workflow I'm still experimenting with the process but it's getting better.
Much of the stacking and channel separation is done in Astropixel Processor, same goes for the recombination of colours. The rest is done as described in Photoshop stretching and layer masks etc.



When I do find time I may make a youtube video but being a busy teacher that's on the backburner for now.
Nik

well hope you do put a youtube tutorial up will be of great value

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 20-02-2021, 03:50 PM
AdamJL
Registered User

AdamJL is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikolas View Post

When I do find time I may make a youtube video but being a busy teacher that's on the backburner for now.
Do if for your students then, I'm sure they'd love it! (regardless of age )
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 20-02-2021, 05:46 PM
Placidus (Mike and Trish)
Narrowing the band

Placidus is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Euchareena, NSW
Posts: 3,719
An excellent widefield. What can be achieved with a small widefield scope and a modern cmos camera continues to astonish.

The only reason for getting a big 20 inch scope like ours is if you really do want to see 200 background galaxies in your image. Otherwise, we're just making things hard for ourselves.

Separating into stars and nebulosity, processing them separately, and then recombining seems to be a very good technique.

Earlier I wrote "What is the advantage of linear dodge over just adding stars to starless, which is what we do?", but I looked up the maths and linear dodge is in fact just exactly that, adding stars to starless. Slowly we learn.

Well done!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 20-02-2021, 06:15 PM
Nikolas's Avatar
Nikolas (Nik)
Dazed and confused

Nikolas is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,264
Quote:
Originally Posted by Placidus View Post
An excellent widefield. What can be achieved with a small widefield scope and a modern cmos camera continues to astonish.

The only reason for getting a big 20 inch scope like ours is if you really do want to see 200 background galaxies in your image. Otherwise, we're just making things hard for ourselves.

Separating into stars and nebulosity, processing them separately, and then recombining seems to be a very good technique.

Earlier I wrote "What is the advantage of linear dodge over just adding stars to starless, which is what we do?", but I looked up the maths and linear dodge is in fact just exactly that, adding stars to starless. Slowly we learn.

Well done!
Thanks Mike

I tried Screen mode and it was ok but linear dodge definitely is more accurate with re-adding the stars
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 23-02-2021, 02:33 AM
petershah's Avatar
petershah (Peter Shah)
Registered User

petershah is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 386
Wow that is just stunning....one day I might get the chance to do this one
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 23-02-2021, 04:12 PM
Andy01's Avatar
Andy01 (Andy)
My God it's full of stars

Andy01 is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,256
Lovely colour palette and a solid 3D appearance.
The tiny jpg has crucified the detail though, do you have a link to a larger version?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 25-02-2021, 11:29 PM
Nikolas's Avatar
Nikolas (Nik)
Dazed and confused

Nikolas is offline
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,264
Hi Andy
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, I was on school camp.
Here's my Astrobin image (got awarded top pick)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 09:58 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Testar
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement