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Old 24-10-2009, 02:17 PM
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What is this?

OK,

Last night I was trying to capture any stray Orionid meteors, so set up the DSLR @ 17mm 30 second exposures.

About 100 frames, nothing in any of them except for this one.

What the hell is it?

There's a full frame so you can tell where it is in the sky, and a crop of the object. Taken at 0241.56 this morning.

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Old 24-10-2009, 02:24 PM
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Looks like an astronomer on another planet has a laser finder!
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Old 24-10-2009, 06:18 PM
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Hi Stuart,

I was going to say it could have been a meteor........but I am not going there.....

Buggered if I know, especially since its green, perhaps due to the 30 sec exposure, there might have been some equipment you have that got in the way, or even a plane's starboard nav light (perhaps not as it WAS 2:46am)

My only ideas...sorry.

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Old 24-10-2009, 07:10 PM
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Its horribly close to NGC 1365.

Besides that i cant help ya.

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Old 24-10-2009, 08:53 PM
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Plate solve it
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Old 24-10-2009, 09:02 PM
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Thats very odd ! The diffraction pattern is weird.
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Old 25-10-2009, 12:35 AM
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Can't get Elbrus to solve it, even after identifying some starts for it, but Comet generates some charts which suggest:

- that's close to GSC 7024-00760 (3h38m42s -35d12m15s) mag=7 or Tyc 7031-184-1 (3h36m51s -33d46m50s) mag=7

- a bit off HR 1054 (3h27m33s -35d40m53) mag=5.7

Far too bright for any of those. Who has the green laser?
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:25 AM
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My guess - probably a plane's navigation light.

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Old 25-10-2009, 01:37 AM
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My guess - probably a plane's navigation light.

Dave
Possible...

Stu, did you see the object move at all??

Or, was it stationary??

Just thinking....best way to test that hypothesis is to image a plane (or several) at varying distances and see what you get.
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Old 25-10-2009, 01:43 AM
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Does look like the scatter of a green laser off a mirror, though.

Another thought....someone firing a laser pointer at a plane and you've caught the reflection off the fuselage.
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Old 25-10-2009, 02:25 AM
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Yeah, I'm in the green laser camp... it looks very monochromatic, and has familiar scatter/diffraction pattern.
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Old 25-10-2009, 02:39 AM
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Little green men in their little green spacecraft?
No seriously... I'll say it's possibly the night vision camera light from a copper chopper?
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Old 25-10-2009, 09:27 AM
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Agree with Carl. Source:Green laser pointer. Mechanism unknown.
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Old 25-10-2009, 12:24 PM
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OK, here's the bits i know (or don't).

I was inside when the shot was taken, so I didn't see anything first hand.

If it was a plane, then it's strange as there is only one spot, 30 seconds would have gotten more spots from navigation lights. I have many photos of planes, they always have a trail of lights flashing on and off.

Taken with a 17-200mm lens, so no mirrors involved.

If it's a GLP, then it would have had to reflect off something, the chances of someone aiming a GLP at my lens from afar are unreasonably low. There is nothing to reflect off, see previous comments about planes.

Don't know about the Coppers, but I do know that the night vision cameras they use are IR thermal imaging cameras and don't have an external light source. Again the lack of running lights would concern me.

I have checked the previous and following frames, nothing there at all.

I'm starting to think something like a GRB?

There has to be an explanation, but it's probably terrestrial.

Anyone else out early Saturday morning in the Werribee region?

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Old 25-10-2009, 12:40 PM
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Sorry Stuart,

Not me, was away at snake valley!
Good luck figuring it out!


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Old 25-10-2009, 01:34 PM
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Hi Stuart,
Regarding the plane or helicopter idea, could it be that it only just entered the pic frame from the west as the last exposure was taken?
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Old 25-10-2009, 02:17 PM
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Last time I saw something like this I though I had discovered a super nova Turned out not to be in the sky at all but an actual reflection within the imaging train. It could very well be a reflection caused by stray light source on to the glass of your lens. Someone walked past with a laser, or the neighbours light switched on and off. Anything really.
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Old 25-10-2009, 03:46 PM
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Police choppers fly around my area a bit and do have there lights off when needed. When they slew the camera you can definitely see a green light on the camera. my 2cents anyway..
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Old 25-10-2009, 04:02 PM
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Hi Stuart,
Regarding the plane or helicopter idea, could it be that it only just entered the pic frame from the west as the last exposure was taken?
Molly.
If that's the case it should be in the next frame, only a second or two between shots. Not there.

I really don't like the "something flying about" theories, more likely something turning on and off again.

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Old 25-10-2009, 04:10 PM
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Last time I saw something like this I though I had discovered a super nova Turned out not to be in the sky at all but an actual reflection within the imaging train. It could very well be a reflection caused by stray light source on to the glass of your lens. Someone walked past with a laser, or the neighbours light switched on and off. Anything really.
I don't think anyone walked past, it was quarter to three, let alone with a laser. This was taken in the onservatory, mounted on the G11, which would be about 500mm below the walls, so stray light would have to have entered from above the roofline of my next door neighbors house (which was in the frame until about an hour after starting. At least that's where Orion was, where the green dot was significantly higher in the sky, almost at zenith.

My GLP is at work, so it's not mine either.

I'll look closely for ghost reflections, which I have seen when capturing Jupiter in widefield shots. That may help.

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