Thanks everyone for your replies.
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Originally Posted by ngcles
Hi Paddy,
Excellent report mate that contained only one error: the title "... surprise gap in the clouds ..."
I'd contend that "surprise gap" is akin to a split infinitive or a redundant tortology. Any and all gaps in the cloud these days are "surprising" -- none are common, "garden-variety" or expected. 
Best,
Les D |
Both a tautololgy and understatement. Shock might be a better word and of course as you say all gaps in clouds are now surprising/a shock. Thanks for the grammatical correction
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Originally Posted by barx1963
Hey Paddy
Just one point, according to uran 2000, 2034 is a bright neb not an OC.
Malcolm
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I got the designation from the NGC/IC project web site
http://www.ngcicproject.org/ which is a truly amazing resource and a huge undertaking. Definitely looks more like a cluster than a nebula. Your point raises a good question though - as Paul says when is an association a cluster?
The intro to the Night Sky Observer's Guide says "Stellar associations are loose aggregations of recently formed stars often but not...always within or near the clouds of...dust and gas from which their stars have just condensed. They frequently have one or more open cluster cores..." Seems to fit NGC 2034 nicely as it certainly contains a number of clusters. Thanks for the stimulus to read this again and learn something.