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Old 23-09-2018, 09:48 PM
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your Rothschild-insinuation is antisemitic.
There's no need to look for a jewish conspiracy when you're looking for US or others' motives to protect Israel. As I said: the security of the State of Israel is raison d'ętre for the state of Germany. There. That's all it takes.

It escapes my knowledge about other states' fundamental Israel principles but it's possible that others have this as well.
Nothing wrong with this motive form the perspective when it was first established.

However, by the hands of a sinister, undemocratic organisation like the CIA, and BigOil, too, the US is responsible for a lot of ****.
Current Germany, too.
Our raison d'ętre openly subsidises the Israelian purchase of German-built submarines. The German blueprints particularly allow for the addition of nuclear warheads; the addition COULD be made impossible but... raison d'ętre etc etc. So, you see? It doesn't require a Rothshild on the board of a BigOil company. There's perfect reason to publicly support Israel - and traditionally with very questionable means, as well.

I don't understand it .. that pathological need for a jewish conspiracy.

The people whose names you throw in are simply very mean individuals. Why do they have to be foremost "jewish"? That's ridiculous and idiotic. Plus it is ousted as antisemitic. It's Nazi speech and Nazi thought. It's racist.

I saw that Democracy-Now Interview with Wesley Clark a year or so ago. Very enlightening, that list of countries to be destroyed by the US?
But that CIA "is first and foremost an Instrument of Israel" is rubbish. Racist rubbish, to be exact.

The US have conspired with Saudi Arabia over oil, as well, since the 50s. When Carter doctored the peace between Israel and Egypt in '79, Saudi Arabia was not amused. And Israel wasn't amused by US-friendship with S-A, whose kings and population are still a well of hatred for Jews.

See? CIA is not a tool of or for Israel. It's not as simple. If you insist on explaining it the simple way, you forego important aspects. Ignorance, let alone racist ignorance, isn't constructive for change.

"for trying to extricate its economy from the Petro-dollar scam and reliance on fiat currency "
Ah. Then it will create a little turmoil that the EU Commission is thinking aloud about exactly that for the Euro, as well ^^.

Change is possible. But not with an idiotic racist world view as foundation for possible actions. Germany's population is growing weary of the weapon support for Israel, as well. "Security" can be supported by non-military aspects, too. Funding of IBM's anti-corruption-software in Israel's administration would be a nice thing to strengthen Israel's security (could make Bibi quite angry, too, which would be very nice to see :p ), or funding for NGOs working towards the 2-state-solution and civilian bonds between all nations living in Israel. And so on. For the time being G will still subsidise submarines. But probably not for long.

Let's see which wars climate change will bring to the region. And whether or not all the ethnic nations will realize how they need to cooperate to tackle that problem.